win diamond earringsfancy colored diamonds colored diamondsfancy colored diamonds yellow diamond jewelryfancy colored diamonds loose pink diamondsfancy colored diamonds engagement rings fancy colored diamonds fancy colored diamonds fancy colored diamonds loose diamonds fancy colored diamonds diamond movies
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
January 08, 2009, 01:33:20 AM
Home Help Search Calendar recent diamond posts recent posts unread posts Login Register

News: This is the diamond forum for people CRAZY about diamonds. Although, we are heavily into Natural Fancy Colored Diamonds, we love the colorless, white & tinted diamonds as well. SEE FORUM RULES and our PRIVACY POLICY. DIAMONDS BY LAUREN WEBSITE see the FORUM PHOTO GALLERY and NEW ITEMS ON OUR WEBSITE.

See our Database Diamond and Gemstone Catalog. Our Toll Free Number 1-877-952-8736. International callers 001-212-382-3770.

We wouldn't hate it if you blogged us. We'd also love you to pieces if you'd leave a testimonial here or at this site.


+  coloreddiamond.info
|-+  POST A QUESTION ABOUT
| |-+  White/Colorless Diamonds
| | |-+  Why does the GIA colour scale start at D?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Why does the GIA colour scale start at D?  (Read 1623 times)
oldmancoyote
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 635



« on: April 04, 2008, 10:04:30 AM »

Since it goes down to Z (OK, with some grades being broader than others and expressed as a range), and it does not skip any letter, why start at D and not A?
Logged
elizabeth
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 805



« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 10:32:20 AM »

Maybe it starts at "D" for "Diamond" grading ...   rotflmao  I have NO idea -
Logged

elizabeth
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 805



« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 10:35:05 AM »

Ok you got me curious - this is what I found:

Why does the GIA color grading system start at D? Before GIA introduced the GIA D-Z Color Grading Scale, a variety of other symbols were loosely applied throughout the industry. Not only were A, B, and C used without clear definition, but some dealers, taking a cue from the poultry business perhaps, started grading their diamonds double A (AA).

Other systems used numbers-both Arabic (0, 1, 2, 3) and Roman (I, II, III). Most dubious of all were systems that relied on descriptive terms like "gem blue" or "blue white." Terms like these are notoriously susceptible to misinterpretation.

So the creators of the GIA Color Scale wanted to start fresh. They wanted symbols that would not have any association with earlier systems. Thus the GIA scale starts at the letter D. There may be some people still clinging to other grading systems, but no other system has the clarity and universal acceptance of the GIA scale.


Logged

oldmancoyote
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 635



« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 11:00:25 AM »

Ah, so (says he, with a faint Japanese undertone)

Good to know - thanks for the search! The GIA site has lots of info, but I can never find what I'm looking for!

 Smiley  Kiss
Logged
Mrs Mitchell
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3438



« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 01:01:18 PM »

OMG!

That was one of the questions in a Survivor quick fire round. I'd forgotten the anawer too.

Jen
Logged
Trinkette
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4071



« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 06:35:35 PM »

I knew the answer to that, sorry I didn't see this thread.  Really, though, it is STILL kind of a vague, wishy-washy reason.  I like Elazabeth's explanation better.  Grin
Logged
Awestruck
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1608



« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 06:48:26 PM »

Easy  Grin
D is for dazzling
E is for electric
F is for fizzing
G is for glorious
H is for heavenly
I is for irresistible
J is for just right
K is for krushed ice
L is for luminous
M is for memorable
N is for nice ( very )
O is for Ooooooh
P is for pizazz
Q is for quintessential
R is for regal
S is for sizzling
T is for terrific
U is for unbelievable
V is for vibrant
W is for Wow
X is for xtraordinary
Y is for Yessssss
Z is for zingy

That`s all the diamond grades as declared by yours truly so whichever grade is your diamond, it`s FABULOUS
Logged

Diamonds are like people, put them under a microscope and you`ll always see a flaw but hold them up to the Sun and each and every one is beautiful.
Trinkette
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4071



« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 07:27:59 PM »

K could be for KILLER!  Great list! Next time someone purchases a sparklie, we'll have to remember these!
Logged
elizabeth
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 805



« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 10:15:00 PM »

David says my 2.06 "unbelievable vibrant radiant elizabeth's taylor diamond" (phew that's a mouthful) ring will be ready Monday.   yahoo
Logged

Awestruck
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1608



« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2008, 03:18:35 AM »

LOL T
 Yup K could be killer but let`s face it our list wouldn`t be right without David`s favourite description in there somewhere. We couldn`t have crushed ice so it`s had to be krushed ice instead.
But it could be killer krushed ice ?  Grin
Logged

Diamonds are like people, put them under a microscope and you`ll always see a flaw but hold them up to the Sun and each and every one is beautiful.
Awestruck
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1608



« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2008, 03:42:45 AM »

Elizabeth
That`s great news and it will be fabulous !
Lynne
Logged

Diamonds are like people, put them under a microscope and you`ll always see a flaw but hold them up to the Sun and each and every one is beautiful.
Trinkette
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4071



« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »

Killer Krushed Ice it is!
Logged
GIAGirl
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2859



« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2008, 09:22:23 AM »

Now the UPS tango begins!!!!!!!!
Logged

Perfect Diamond
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 38



« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 05:11:19 AM »

One of the reasons why GIA started with D is bcoz there are some diamonds that are more colorless than D. It is offen called High D or Super D or Golconda. This diamonds are known to possess ultra transparency, ultra colorlessness. Whiter than white and brighter than bright.

 sultan
Logged
oldmancoyote
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 635



« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 03:42:35 PM »

...mmmm. As far as I know, Master Stones are graded to be the "most color allowable" for a grade. So anything which is "more colorless" than a D master stone (diamond gas?) is a D by definition. I've never seen anyone offering "D+" or "high D", though generally Golconda stones are reputed to be very white. Willing to be proven wrong... Evil
Logged
Perfect Diamond
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 38



« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 01:57:23 AM »

Mother Nature always creates an exception. There will be diamonds that will be more colorless than D. You can compare some Golconda diamonds to some D color diamonds and the Golconda stones kinda look whiter. GIA does not indicate on it's report if a stone is a High D or a Low D. When a diamond is found to be whiter than the D color masterstone they will simply grade the diamond D.

 sultan pear 4
Logged
Mikla
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1406



« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 08:20:53 AM »

From Richard W. Wise:  http://gemwiseblogsp...olconda-diamond.html

Modern scientific analysis has shown that many famous high quality diamonds such as the Cullinan, Regent (image: at top of page) and The Koh-I-Noor that can be proven to come from the Golconda area are of a specific type of rare, almost pure diamond known as Type IIa. Less than 1% of the world’s diamonds are Type IIa. Scientifically speaking, Type IIa diamonds are diamonds that conduct electricity and contain no significant amount of nitrogen in the diamond crystal lattice.

From the GIA:  http://www.gia.edu/n...letter_details.cfm#3

Type IIa diamonds   (relatively rare) are composed of almost pure carbon with no detectable amounts of nitrogen using a "conventional" infrared spectrometer. Modern, more sensitive infrared spectrophotometers could detect the small amounts of nitrogen–on the order of 10 parts per million–in some of these diamonds. The famous Cullinan rough (3,106 ct), with its irregular crystal shape and colorless body color, is typical for type IIa diamonds. Sometimes, type IIa diamonds may appear light gray or light brown due to crystal deformation. These particular diamonds are the type IIa diamonds that can be processed by high pressure and high temperature (HPHT) to “decolorize” the diamond. Colorless synthetic diamonds can be type IIa, because they lack the nitrogen impurity. Type IIa diamonds are transparent to short-wave ultraviolet radiation, which means short-wave ultraviolet radiation will transmit through the diamond. Type IIa diamond testers have been developed based on this property.
 
Type IIb diamonds (relatively rare) contain boron atoms, which substitute for carbon in the atomic lattice. (The amount of boron can be a few parts per million or less.) This causes absorption of the red and orange wavelengths in the visible spectrum, creating a blue color. Often their color shows a gray component and sometimes these are "pure" gray in color. The boron also makes the diamonds electrically conductive. A unique feature of type IIb diamonds is that they phosphoresce after being exposed to short-wave ultraviolet radiation. The boron also gives a distinct spectrum over the mid-infrared range, which is very different from the other diamond types. The most famous type IIb diamond is the Hope diamond, on display at the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, D.C.
Logged

Diamonds make me jump for joy! bliss

My Gallery Images
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.7 | SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC Subscribe to RSS Feed http://coloreddiamond.info/images/rss-icon.jpg