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« on: June 25, 2007, 02:37:22 PM »
HI DAVID,

WHAT DO U THINK OF GETTING COLOUR I, CLARITY IF, IDEAL CUT? IS THAT BETTER THAN G, VS2?
FROM WHAT I KNOW IF ITS BIGGER CLARITY AND IDEAL CUT, THE BIGGER SHINE!
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 02:55:03 PM »
Hi zel30,
To start with: There's no such thing as an "Ideal" princess cut.
That calls a lot of what you've been told into question.....do you know who issued the grade on these diamonds?
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2007, 02:56:29 PM »
NOW I AM TOTAL CONFUSED,.....
EVERYWHERE I READ THERE IS IDEAL CUT OR VERY GOOD CUT, OR GOOD CUT?Huh?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2007, 03:03:44 PM »
IS THERE A HUGE DIFFERENT BETWEEN SI1 AND VS1 IN PRACTICE?
SOMEONE SAYS NO TO SI1 AND SOMEONE SAYS YES!
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2007, 03:26:05 PM »
Quote from: zel30 on June 25, 2007, 02:56:29 PM
NOW I AM TOTAL CONFUSED,.....
EVERYWHERE I READ THERE IS IDEAL CUT OR VERY GOOD CUT, OR GOOD CUT?Huh?

Hi Zel - excuse me, but you did not read this here, right?

Then the next question- Zel, whoever is telling you this stuff is misleading you.Who graded the diamonds you are asking about?
Is there a gemological report on them?
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2007, 06:07:53 PM »
Hi again Zel,
I wanted to stress that part of what you heard- cut is important- that part is true.
It's just that when many sellers call their diamonds "Ideal"- it's not an accepted fact.

GIA has a "Cut Grade" on their reports for Round Brilliant- but only round, not princess cut.
The best grade for a GIA cut grade is "Excellent"
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 09:50:22 AM »
TAHNK U DAVID

NOW I UNDERSTAND,....
WHAT DO U THINK,..... SHOULD I PAY MORE ATTENTION ON THE COLOUR (FOR EXAMPLE I LIKE COLOUR G AND F) THAN ON CLARITY? BECAUSE WHEN U HAVE LIMITED BUDGET AND IF U WANT BIGGER DIAMOND U HAVE TO DECIDE, F COLOUR OR I COLOUR WHICH IS CHEAPER, OR VVS2 CLARITY OR CHEAPER SI1.U SEE DIAMONDS IN PERSON EVERY DAY, SO THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 10:47:47 AM »
I think that with any stone what matters most is your opinion. Do you like the stone? Do you see any imperfections? or Is it eye clean? I think people get to wrapped up in this grading game. I have seen some stones from David that defy this grading concept but he really knows how to pick them. He always chooses stones that look good to his eye, if that makes sense. Are you able to see the stone you are considering in person? If so then base your decision on that. Look at the stone with your naked eye first. See if you can spot any imperfections. Then look at it through a loupe, what do you see? If you really like the way the stone looks then I say base your decision on that. I know David will probably kill me for saying that but I really feel like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd say that color and clarity should play a role in a big purchase. But with a big purchase most reputable jewellers will have a GIA report. Just my  My2cents
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 12:16:35 PM »
THANK YOU BIG RED ..... WILL KEEP IT IN MY MIND,.....
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 12:30:30 PM »
as far as what the paper says and what it looks like in person, you never can really tell.  i wouldnt consider my asscher quiet so much like an asscher.   it has good clarity, a vs1, decent size for its carat weight, but then it's an L color, doesnt have the typical "windmill" looks, and it has a huge table.  even though my asscher isnt the perfect asscher, i still love it in person.  i would have never guessed it was an L because to me it faces up white.  i am much more sensitive to imperfection than color.  my previous engagement ring was a G color but I1 clarity princess.  i have extremely good vision and i could spot the flaws.  it drove me crazy.  my new diamond is vs1 in clarity and i cant spot the flaws, plus, the minute tint really doesnt bother me.  its up to you which you prefer more, but i prefer a cleaner stone over a super white one.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 01:00:03 PM »
AS you can see, people have differing ideas as to color and clarity- and which one is more important.
It's really up to the seller to help guide you - as it seems you are not decided.


Zel, the really important questions are more basic than color and clarity.
Who's grading these diamonds, and where are they being offered? Are they in a store, or online?
If you are considering spending your money, we'd like to make sure you're going in "eyes open"
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2007, 01:36:06 PM »
YES,..... I WANNA SEE IN PERSON THE DIAMOND I AM BUYING,.... BECAUSE I DONT LIKE BUYING THINGS BEFORE I SEE WHAT I AM BUYING,.... SO I WHEN I SEE IT, IF I LIKE IT WANT PAY SO MUCH ATTENTION ON COLOUR OR CLARITY,..... JUST WILL FALLOW MY INSTINCT AND MY BUDGET OF COURSE
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2007, 02:39:51 PM »
Zel, first and foremost, you need to pay attention to how the seller is representing the diamond.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 01:28:47 PM »
Hi Zel, just wondered if you've made any progress with your diamond? Hope you've found something that you really love. Please do come back with pictures, if you get the chance!

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 03:18:03 PM »
I second that!
It's really informative to look at what sellers are telling people.
THere needs to be a balance between color, clarity and size.
Since diamonds are natural we can't neccesarily get the exact combination we seek.
For example- many people ask about buying a nice 1.90carat- thinking that they will save alot over a 2.00 with little or no visual difference.
Wait for that 1.90 and you might never find your diamond.

In the case of clarity and color there's a lot of strange stories we hear.
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2007, 11:44:19 AM »
Just HAVE to show off my GIA K color 2.18 princess diamond from DBL...it fit so perfectly with this thread...Zel, go for what is beautiful to your eye...you look at the diamond every day, but you only look at the papers once...before you send them to your insurance man!

* PrincessDT.JPG (45.52 KB, 648x486 - viewed 25 times.)
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2007, 11:59:58 AM »
that is a pretty one!
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2007, 01:43:09 PM »
What a gorgeous ring!
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2007, 11:25:34 AM »
HI

THAT IS BEAUTIFUL RING,..... IF I SEE THE SAME ONE, WILL CONSIDER BUYING IT!! princess
I AM STILL THINKING WHAT TO GET,..... IN FACT MY BITRHDAY IS COMING IN A MONTH, SO STILL HAVE TIME.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2007, 11:26:21 AM »
WHEN I GET IT WILL SHOW IT TO U ALL Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2007, 12:25:28 PM »
Zel, where are you located?
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2007, 12:33:49 PM »
Quote from: zel30 on July 09, 2007, 11:25:34 AM
HI

THAT IS BEAUTIFUL RING,..... IF I SEE THE SAME ONE, WILL CONSIDER BUYING IT!! princess
I AM STILL THINKING WHAT TO GET,..... IN FACT MY BITRHDAY IS COMING IN A MONTH, SO STILL HAVE TIME.

PS- Zel- as Carathead said- the ring in the photo comes from us.
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2007, 11:48:38 AM »
HI DAVID AND ALL WOMEN,......


I AM FROM CROATIA,....EUROPE
I KNOW THAT PRINCESS CUT RING COMES FROM YOU DAVID,..... REALLY PRETTY,....
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2007, 11:55:26 AM »
Hi Zel,
It's sooooo cool you're joining us from far away!!

Do they have a lot of jewelry stores in Croatia?
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2007, 01:22:15 PM »
Zel30- I feel honored you'd come all the way from Croatia to visit our site.
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