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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2007, 12:47:43 PM »

The problem is merging a forum with the cc- ssl. There are ways to do it with paypal and from there you can have them verify cc info with a credit card and not a check. I have identified a modification that would allow paypal and the board permissions could be used to allow designated membergroups to post in the classifieds.

But getting the forum to go through a ssl cc hoop other than paypal is sticky indeed not to mention time consuming and costly.

However,  members would not automatically get to start a topic in this "classified" section unless I put them in the user group. I (DJ or Annie, David, bigbro) could handle this by special request.

So through paypal, the credit card could be verified. And through the approval process we could verify the phone number. If you make it more complicated, it gets more expensive. Those wishing to post in the classifieds would have to have a paypal account.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2007, 08:35:57 PM »

That-s it. I÷m going to stop eating Big Macs and start an SSL fund


What does everyone else think¿....

Is there a difference in your guys minds between paypal, and a site who accepts cards directly ¿
Is it worth putting some resouces behind¿ do you guys mind up=side down ¿÷s
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2007, 09:09:02 PM »

David: Are the upside down ? due to being in Mexico?  Wink

As for classifieds, I don't think we should do the CC transaction directly through this forum. I think it opens you guys up to too much liability, etc. Maybe the way to go would be to use PayPal for processing of the payment. I do not have a paypal account but from what I hear, it's free to sign up, right? They charge a 3% fee to the seller for the transaction? Also, I think the classified should be restricted to a certain membership group say "Jr Member" or "Full Member" or higher (depending on what the concensus is). That way, we can be sure the person has been around a little and we get to know them. It depends on what we want the Classifieds section to be, an open marketplace for just anyone or a service to the membership of CDI? I personally think it should be the latter.
As for the fee, I don't do Ebay or paypal so I have no idea whatsoever about the fee.
One more thing about the PayPal thing, you guys are considering that as a requirement for verification, right? Just wondering since if you make it a requirement whether people might perceive an explicit or implied endorsement? I know through your Ebay store that you guys do not go through PayPal.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2007, 09:13:21 PM »

Gemelli - I was playing with that idea the other day. I think I ran into a snag though with the posting part. I'll give it a test run with a regular member account. Any testing on your on your test smf is great. I am open to input.

I think I got this angle of it sorted...  whether I can explain it is a different story.

You'd need to go Admin>Permissions>Settings and check the box marked "Enable advanced by-board permissions".   After this, go to Permissions By Board and switch the board in question from Global to Local.  Then click on the board name (should be a link now) to set permissions by usergroup.  Make sure your regulars can still post!

It takes a bit of messing about with checkboxes to get the permissions set, but seems to work.

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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2007, 11:11:43 PM »

David: Are the upside down ? due to being in Mexico?  Wink

As for classifieds, I don't think we should do the CC transaction directly through this forum. I think it opens you guys up to too much liability, etc. Maybe the way to go would be to use PayPal for processing of the payment. I do not have a paypal account but from what I hear, it's free to sign up, right? They charge a 3% fee to the seller for the transaction? Also, I think the classified should be restricted to a certain membership group say "Jr Member" or "Full Member" or higher (depending on what the concensus is). That way, we can be sure the person has been around a little and we get to know them. It depends on what we want the Classifieds section to be, an open marketplace for just anyone or a service to the membership of CDI? I personally think it should be the latter.
As for the fee, I don't do Ebay or paypal so I have no idea whatsoever about the fee.
One more thing about the PayPal thing, you guys are considering that as a requirement for verification, right? Just wondering since if you make it a requirement whether people might perceive an explicit or implied endorsement? I know through your Ebay store that you guys do not go through PayPal.

Thanks Tea
Actually, I was thinking that the ability to accept credit cards would primarily be to allow people to purchase our jewelery and diamonds... the additional benefit being the use on CDI for classifieds.....

So, to frame the question again: do you guys think there are appreciable benefits to DBL by allowing direct use of credit cards¿

And yes, I really wish I knew how to turn this thing ¿ rightside upªªªªª  Ç or even get an exclaimation point´or parenthasis

GEmelli,Isn÷t it eonough that I÷m in a place where I can÷t hear ANY english in the street? Now I can÷t even undrestand CDI posts¿¿¿¿ heheheheheh
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2007, 11:14:46 PM »

PS= I agree that people we are familiar with should be treated differently than those here only to sell something
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2007, 11:42:54 PM »

David, I thought that's what you meant re: accepting credit card transactions directly through the site. Allowing people to purchase DBL merchandise on CC through this site is one thing, I still think it opens you guys up to liability to allow it for the CDI membership for their personal classifieds, though I know where you are coming from with that. I'm not even so sure about purchasing DBL merchandise directly through this forum either. One of the things I LOVE about DBL and my shopping experience with you guys is the personal attention, getting all my questions answered, etc.

Go and enjoy your vacation! Shoooo!
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2007, 09:49:07 AM »

PS= I agree that people we are familiar with should be treated differently than those here only to sell something


Thank you for saying this Tea and David.........it sure made sense to me when I had suggested this along with a few other ideas on another forum.  However, I got "blasted" by some rude moderator troll, therefore, you can see I may be a little gun shy about posting my ideas on this.   yel 

Keep in mind, some people don't want to sign up for Paypal.....so that may not be an option for some.   ~Ronda   
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2007, 10:13:45 AM »

PS= I agree that people we are familiar with should be treated differently than those here only to sell something


Thank you for saying this Tea and David.........it sure made sense to me when I had suggested this along with a few other ideas on another forum.  However, I got "blasted" by some rude moderator troll, therefore, you can see I may be a little gun shy about posting my ideas on this.   yel 

Keep in mind, some people don't want to sign up for Paypal.....so that may not be an option for some.   ~Ronda   

That's it Ronda, I'm going to have to "slap you on the wrist"...heheheheh

Please rest assured, the people who are here now, at the inception of CDI, are like family members here.

We welcome ANY and all input. ( even yours Ronda icon_queen)
If anyone writes something that causes concern here, it would be handled in a discreet manor, no wrist slapping necessary.

It is quite amazing to me how valuable members are treated as though they are worthless.
That will NEVER happen here!!!!
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2007, 10:21:10 AM »

I can't tell you how often David has told me how great you guys are. Really. He genuinely appreciates you guys.

You'd need to go Admin>Permissions>Settings and check the box marked "Enable advanced by-board permissions".   ......

That's what I was doing when I did the test board at the bottom. I just have to create a new member group and make sure they have the right permissions. I'll get some to take a test drive when I set it up again. I think the snag was the credit card thing or paypal thing. But I think I found the solution to that. That's a bit harder to test but it's possible.

I know not everyone has a paypal account. But if we do the nominal fee, we'll need to do paypal. It is free to sign up. And you can pay through paypal with your bank account or credit/debit card.

I think we can restrict it to members with a certain post status. And as for whether paypal is an endorsement? No system will be perfect but this is the easiest to keep up with and to set up.

I think a few hurdles are necessary to keep it legit and keep it sane.  I think a one time fee is going to make the most sense.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2007, 10:38:50 AM »

I know not everyone has a paypal account. But if we do the nominal fee, we'll need to do paypal. It is free to sign up. And you can pay through paypal with your bank account or credit/debit card.

I think we can restrict it to members with a certain post status. And as for whether paypal is an endorsement? No system will be perfect but this is the easiest to keep up with and to set up.

We went PayPal for a recently installed online search database that my (small) employer runs.  It can be set up so that even people without PayPal accounts are prompted to create one when checking out - good for PayPal noobs and looks more or less like a regular credit card transaction.  For relatively small volumes keeping the security in-house is a big hassle.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2007, 10:52:33 AM »

PS= I agree that people we are familiar with should be treated differently than those here only to sell something


Thank you for saying this Tea and David.........it sure made sense to me when I had suggested this along with a few other ideas on another forum.  However, I got "blasted" by some rude moderator troll, therefore, you can see I may be a little gun shy about posting my ideas on this.   yel 

Keep in mind, some people don't want to sign up for Paypal.....so that may not be an option for some.   ~Ronda   

That's it Ronda, I'm going to have to "slap you on the wrist"...heheheheh

Please rest assured, the people who are here now, at the inception of CDI, are like family members here.

We welcome ANY and all input. ( even yours Ronda icon_queen)
If anyone writes something that causes concern here, it would be handled in a discreet manor, no wrist slapping necessary.

It is quite amazing to me how valuable members are treated as though they are worthless.
That will NEVER happen here!!!!


Heheehe.... What guy do you know that goes above and beyond by responding while on vacation in Mexico to give me such wonderful reassurance??    You are awesome David and I have no doubt that I have been treated and will always be treated like GOLD on this forum.    Not to be political or sappy by any means..... I do feel like I am treated like family and that is why I have been staying away from the other place.......  Isn't life about human kindness and decency?   What comes around certainly does go around.  friends  




O.k. back to regular programing Grin      I like the idea of the one time fee.  Will it be on a yearly basis?    


What kind of restrictions have you considered on members and posting status?   100 posts or maybe it is someone who has purchased from David, but does not have time to meet the posting requirement.   Obviously,  certain privleges will be at David's discretion.    

I sure hope this does not get too complicated for you WM and David.   I thank you for taking on this task and opening up this great opportunity to us.    It is truly appreciated.    patpat
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2007, 01:48:26 PM »

I like the suggestion of either being a customer or have a certain number of posts. I think making it a privelege for members is a good idea. By the way, we're getting some action on google and I think the items will start showing up on those searches.

I am looking into one of paypals more advanced set ups with the shopping cart. And I knew that did not require an account. So since gemelli brought it up, I thought I'd go back and check out some of the packages they had for merchants that I had not looked into because they weren't going to be enough.

You guys are welcome to start putting money into my account just to see if it works. I just picked a number. I want everyone to be able to afford to donate directly to me!

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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2007, 01:49:19 PM »

The button isn't working but I have it in there with vb code. I think I can test this elsewhere on the forum that will accept html.
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2007, 07:36:01 PM »

I am seriously BOT (behind on threads) around here, and I haven't voiced an opinion on the classifieds yet.

So before I forget, I wanted to say a big YES! I think a classified section would be AWESOME!!

And whatever way DBL wants to do it, is fine by me. Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2007, 10:44:33 PM »

It is quite amazing to me how valuable members are treated as though they are worthless.
That will NEVER happen here!!!!

 hugging  This warms my heart David.

Love the idea of a classified......as to the details.....i trust that CDI will do the fair and reasonable thing.  Not even sure what a reasonable flat fee is.....I guess there is a way to work out how much time it takes to monitor/moderate the listings and the price should reflect that. 
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