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« on: November 09, 2011, 02:42:48 PM »

Hi everyone
This is a stone that creates a lot questions in the minds of diamond men.
Why? Well, if we look at it from behind, just look at this body color



From the face, there is color, but not as much as the back would suggest....



The questions raised?
Should the stone be recut into a shape that will bring out the color more.
Here's what GIA said about the stone.....


I love the stone the way it is, and it's very well priced for a stone this size.
It's really cool- looks almost like a round- but not really..

What do you guys think?

ITEM #: R4313
Cushion Cut Diamond, Loose

  WEIGHT: 3.55ct
  SHAPE: Cushion Cut
  COLOR: S-T
  CLARITY: VS2
  MEASUREMENTS: 9.67 x 9.55 x 5.94 mm
  TOTAL DEPTH: 62.2%
  TABLE SIZE: 56%
  POLISH: G
  SYMMETRY: G
  FLUORESCENCE: NONE
  GIA REPORT #: 1132417066

Price: $23995

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 03:43:07 PM »

Let me tell you I want this stone!   So bad!!!

I have no idea why but probably because it is so darn unique.  It looks like a round meets a cushion and gets the best of both worlds.  No overly obvious arrows, but a lovely roundish squarish thing. 

That was a technical term Wink

The itty bitty culet is a clincher for me.  It really is perfection.

The color (or lack of face up) is lovely too!
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 04:53:27 PM »

How very interesting!  It's quite a nice stone, and HUGE (which is just perfect for my finger).  Face down, it looks like it is at least FY, but I was surprised at how little color there appeared to be in the face up shot.  This is a prime example of why GIA grades colored diamonds face up. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 06:36:37 PM »

I say leave it!  I think my most sparkly diamonds are round radiant cuts yet my favorite shape is square... so I can't imagine a more perfect cut!   Also when you mount that stone with yellow gold it will be golden and perfect and it will sparkle so much the person wearing it won't care it's not a x y z or FY~


Just my two cents


now how can we get more stones cut like that .... that don't cost 23 grand.......... Grin
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 06:47:33 PM »

For me, there is no more perfect size! And, I love this shape. Too bad the face-up side is not the color of the upside-down side, because it is beautiful. However, if it is a KILLER diamond, then, I doubt it makes a difference WHAT the color is.

I'd like to see this faint/light yellow diamond sitting between two similarly sized aquamarines in a honker platinum and yellow-gold ring, set with some elegant, pointy claws. The light aqua color of the gems will encourage the hidden yellow in the diamond to come forward. I think, it would look stunning.  

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 07:15:40 PM »

LOVE IT...just the way it is! 
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 07:35:43 PM »

I love the way it is, too!!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 08:06:29 PM »

Oh if I didn't make it clear I would not recut the stone Wink

I actually would love to see it in a super simple and elegant setting that just showcases this beauty!  Maybe something with a fancy basket but from the top all you see is this stunning stone.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 12:21:23 PM »

If I made it seem that I do not like this stone, as is, let me be clear... I adore this diamond, S-T color and all. However, I see a diamond guy's dilemma... save as much weight as possible for more $$$ per carat, or, take a chance that a recut, smaller stone will make up the difference in value through it's color.

I like the unusual shape, S-T and all. And, it is a very clean gem. Since the stone can ALWAYS be recut, I challenge thee: mount it in a beautiful ring, perhaps, between two aquamarines and see what happens (or, at least, set it between two aquas on your desktop and see what happens)... Evil

(Of course if you are a diamond cutter, setting it in jewelry doesn't help the dilemma... )
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 12:21:48 PM »

Size 6.75, please.  angel
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 03:52:54 PM »

Is this more of a transitional cut? Just wondering because of the slightly squared shape, tiny culet, yet it kinda has the RB arrow thing going on but with chunkier facets. It is definitely an attention-getter whatever it's cut!

That is really neat how it's yellow on bottom but not very yellow on top. Would it face as yellow as the bottom if it were set in yellow gold?
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 04:39:23 PM »

Dovesgate I own two transitionals and neither are anything but round.  It's hard to flat out define a transitional but the only thing I've seen them all have in common is the round shape and not the cushion shape.

One of my transitionals has a small culet while the other has very small.  In general transitionals were when they were going from the round older cuts to the modern ones - the move from from taller crowns and small tables to what we see as the modern round (lower crown, more medium sized table, shorter pavilion and smaller culet)

one of the neat things about one of my transitionals is the lack of polished or faceted girdle.  I honestly cannot tell what my other one has due to the setting.  Though I admit I haven't really looked.

I wouldn't guess this to be a transitional at all, but I could be wrong.

This stone is haunting me and I know I shouldn't have it.  I keep wondering if the uber factory could create a solitaire that has the lovely braid at the bottom like R3882 yet is still a solitaire.  A yellow undercarriage like that would probably help the diamond look more yellow.  Or maybe a "tulip" setting where you have a lot of yellow gold holding it into place.  Somehow that's what I see in this stone... but that's probably what I would love Wink
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 06:28:51 PM »

I've only owned one transitional, but it was most definitely round.  I've never heard of a square-ish tranny, but my diamond knowledge is not vast!

I get confused between OMC's and cushions....but read recently that they are two names for the same stone.  I don't know if that's true or not!
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 06:31:18 PM »

I agree with Squig- the way I see it, this stone is all modern. Generally speaking, traditional stones seem to have larger facets.
In fact, it looks almost exactly like a modern round brilliant in it's faceting.


I like this photo...

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 06:41:33 PM »

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LOVE that photo!  There is EASILY as much yellow color appearing in this photo as appears in the underside photos...
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 06:42:22 PM »

Make that:

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 06:57:37 PM »

Ah, I see. It's still really cool. The latest picture makes it look much more yellow too.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »

I am smitten too with this stone!!!!  I love that photo and it really does look quite yellow in that photo  love10 Heart love7
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 10:04:43 PM »

What is a transitional cut?  Is it a cut?
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 07:27:19 AM »

In short a transitional diamond is a type of round scut.  They aren't quite the same looking as a modern round brilliant but they aren't quite the Old European Cuts either.  I am over simplifying a little but they are just the diamonds that came during the period of history where cutting styles of rounds changed.  They were cut somewhere around 1918-1930 or so.  One of mine was from 1925 and the other is thought to be from 1930 give or take a couple years.  The latter of the two for me really has more in common with modern rounds but still has signs of the transitional period (very small culet and unpolished or non-faceted girdle).

A lot of times it is hard to know how to classify these diamonds.  Unless you know the exact history of the diamond. My 1925 I know the history of, but the 1930 was more vague since it came from an estate sale.  They had rough dates on it though that pinpointed the timeline to me.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2011, 08:16:34 AM »

Wow cool!  I had no idea!  I am going to look more into it!  I do love the old antique cut stones!
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2011, 08:45:56 AM »

D---that is one gorgeous stone!!!  I love everything about it tongue1  It's really fabulous!

The color is lovely---my S-T emerald cut can be such a chameleon, lemony yellow is some lighting, almost white in other---either way makes me happy.

Can't wait to see what you do with this beauty Smiley
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