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« on: April 08, 2008, 03:04:17 PM »

Hi All,
It's a common question"Why don't fancy Yellow diamonds come in round?"


There's alot of good reasons...but today we'll discuss those, and show you TWO intense yellow rounds over 1.00 that BREAK the rule!
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 03:30:26 PM »

Ohhhhh. Photo, photo!
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 03:34:44 PM »




Fancy Intense Yellow/I1
GIA Color Origin Report
7.92-7.98 x 4.65
That equates to a depth ratio of 58.7%
the GIA color origin report does not include table measurements.  I estimate the table of the stone to be about 65%.
The results of this depth and table combination is pretty obvious in these pictures.  You can see a ring defining the outside edges of the table.
When we say "table" we're talking about the largest facet on the diamond.  The flat one on top.

The reasons why a cutter would cut the diamond to these proportions go to the subject of this thread.  Why don't you see intense yellow diamonds in round shape?

The 1.92 is a "worked out" stone. What this means, is that the cutter needed to make compromises on the existing rough to come out with a salable diamond.
In an ideal circumstance, the cutter has the room to waste enough of the rough to make a stone of ideal proportions... a well cut diamond.

A large part of the decision-making process of the diamond Cutter involves the financial questions and answers.  Computers are used to analyze the rough on a 3D visualization screen.
The decision needs to be made whether to make a larger radiant for a smaller round diamond possibly.

Generally speaking, radiant cuts, and cushions will allow the cutter to get a better yield from the rough diamond.... many of which are octahedron shape.
If you can visualize this, the cutter needs to shave off the corners to make a round diamond.  A radiant or cushion cut would allow him not to do this.
Again, speaking in generalizations, round is the most expensive of the cuts.  This is the reason why.

The other aspect which is very important to a cutter specializing in fancy colored diamonds, is out to get the most color out of the rough diamond.
Here, round is the poorest performer, as compared to pear shaped cushion oval or radiant.

The reasons here have to do with the design of a round brilliant cut.  A round brilliant is designed to make a diamond look as white (or colorless ) as possible.

Radiant cuts and cushions on the other hand, allow the cutter to focus the light over a longer distance within the diamond to multiply the color.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 04:22:26 PM »

Those are fabulous. Are they matched like for earrings? Or will there be two rings?

So does the larger table in this case help the color? Do you think that this will inspire more to be cut into rounds?
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 04:23:36 PM »

Very cool stuff.  David, thank you for the opportunity to see these amazing up-close photos.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 04:38:37 PM »

The photos above are only one diamond WM....
By the way, no one asked yet, but the price of that 1.92ct I1....

$52,000.......
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 04:53:40 PM »

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By the way, no one asked yet, but the price of that 1.92ct I1....

$52,000.......

Hahahahha! That's because we knew BETTER than to ask!  Cool
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 04:55:54 PM »

Beautiful diamonds!  Thank you for the explanation David!  I did wonder why there aren't more rounds in fancy colors.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2008, 04:57:49 PM »

Interesting post David. I doubt I`ll be ordering a matching pair for earrings but they`re stunning for sure !
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2008, 05:32:13 PM »

HI Guys...so far, I've only posted one of the diamonds...the second one is smaller- and I like it a lot more......
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 06:19:47 PM »

Great....I'm heading out the door to a meeting and now I'll be daydreaming about these rounds the entire time.  Looking forward to seeing the pic of #2 when I return.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2008, 06:26:45 PM »

That is just amazing!  So glad I cannot afford it, and I am sure not the other either if it is even better!
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2008, 06:43:08 PM »

The photos above are only one diamond WM....
By the way, no one asked yet, but the price of that 1.92ct I1....

$52,000.......


Hmmm...so I guess I am not getting earrings made any time soon. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 07:28:12 PM »



Now HERE is a well cut diamond
this diamond has a color origin report as well.  That means I'll need to "guesstimate" the table....which I do at 60%.
That would make this guy a "60/60"...my favorite copmbo.

Here's we have to assume the rough was more condusive to this amazing cut.
They did have to leave the imperfection...
Many times imperfection is also somethign the cutter needs to consider in his financial and artistic decisions.
For example, sometimes he could finsh a 2.00I1, or a 1.50 VS...which is worth more is going to have to guide his ( or her) hand...
ITEM #: R2559
Round Brilliant Diamond, Loose

  WEIGHT: 1.06ct
  SHAPE: Round Brilliant
  COLOR: Fancy Intense Yellow
  CLARITY: I1
  MEASUREMENTS: 6.56 - 6.57 x 3.95 mm
  TOTAL DEPTH: 60.2%
  FLUORESCENCE: NONE

CDi Special Price: $10495


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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2008, 08:32:28 PM »

David - is that a faceted culet (I don't know how else to call it!) or just a strange play of light on the bottom of the diamond? If the former, is there a reason for this? I'd have thought a pointed culet without any further cutting would maximise light path length and therefore colour; what am I missing?
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 08:41:37 PM »

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, look at THAT!

Shoot!  tantrum2 Why can't I find $10K when I need it?

 david This is a "plain" Fancy Intense Yellow, yes?  There is no modifying color? Is the diamond picking up the reds and browns I see from your surroundings?
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 09:26:44 PM »

Oh, BTW - is this the new discount forum members get? The 1.06 is currently on the website at $1,000,000.  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 09:33:00 PM »

It sure makes the CDI price look good.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 09:33:22 PM »

Oh, BTW - is this the new discount forum members get? The 1.06 is currently on the website at $1,000,000.  Grin

I guess I'd better correct that price! D, you listed it at one million.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 09:37:39 PM »

Well, it WAS on the website for $10, but then a REALLY ASTUTE, SMART, PRETTY, CHARMING... uhhhh... ohh, sorry, I got carried away...  Anyway it WAS briefly listed at $10 until SOMEONE pointed out THAT little boo boo to The Big Guy. (Geesh, I had the money ready to wire and everything).  I think this NEW price is payback.  Bawling
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 10:09:06 PM »

who, me?
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 10:15:41 PM »

David - is that a faceted culet (I don't know how else to call it!) or just a strange play of light on the bottom of the diamond? If the former, is there a reason for this? I'd have thought a pointed culet without any further cutting would maximise light path length and therefore colour; what am I missing?

Great question OMC.  In terms of the culet, on a round diamond you can theoretically get everything to a perfect point. 
However, this is generally never done.  Part of the finishing process involves dulling the culet ever so slightly.  There's a lot of reasons for this. 
For one thing, when you put a lot of diamonds together, they will scratch each other. 

But even on the largest diamonds which are rarely put in parcels with others, the culet is still generally dulled ever so slightly because it's a very delicate point on the diamond. 
You really need to be careful with the culet, , it is at a point on the diamond, which if it was damaged, would be easily visible from the top

When I say "dulling", we're talking ever so slightly.... you would need a microscope to notice this.  This will not really affect the brilliance of the diamond.
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2008, 10:21:42 AM »

Hummm, I never knew that about dulling the culet.  David, thanks for the info.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2008, 11:39:10 AM »


ITEM #: R2559
Round Brilliant Diamond, Loose

  WEIGHT: 1.06ct
  SHAPE: Round Brilliant
  COLOR: Fancy Intense Yellow
  CLARITY: I1
  MEASUREMENTS: 6.56 - 6.57 x 3.95 mm
  TOTAL DEPTH: 60.2%
  FLUORESCENCE: NONE

CDi Special Price: $10495




What do you guys think of setting this little darling in one of the two mountings shown below?

Mikla


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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2008, 12:13:25 PM »

OMG!   HAAAAALLLLLLOOOOOOO! Halo, halo, halo. Go for the halo. The halo would be perfect for that stone. Halo. HAAAAALLLLLOOOOO!

I quite like the first setting... Grin
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