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« on: October 09, 2007, 10:00:58 PM »

So much fuss has been made about the "cut" of a diamond- including quite a bit by yours truly.

In fact, many "average" consumers ( ones not nearly as diamond aware as our readers) know that Cut is a very important "C"

This has lead to many sellers to target consumers by giving their particular diamonds "Cut Grades".

For example, the term "Ideal Cut" is bandied about recklessly. Such terminology does make it seem as though an "ideal Cut" is better than a ....regular (?) cut.

The term "Ideal" could actually refer to a particular specification on AGS reports.  But many times the term is used where no AGS reports exists.

HOW TO JUDGE A PEAR SHAPE'S CUT

Let's talk about "Make" , and "Model".
I'm using dealer and cutter lingo here. Many dealers will use the term " An excellent make"- Or " A well made Stone"- or " The parcel has good makes"
"Make"= what many consumers equate to "cut"

When we look at the "Make" of a Pear Shape we're looking at a lot of the things we look at in a round diamond.
These include things like: Do the facets line up properly? How is the depth/table combo? Does it sparkle? Look large for it's carat weight?
All these have to do with "the make" or how the diamond is cut.

Of course when judging Fancy Shaped Diamonds,  there's a lot more to consider than when judging a round.
For example, there's a lot of different shapes a pear shape can be.
When we are considering the overall shape of a Pear Shape ( or any fancy Shape) "Model" refers to the general outline of the stone. This is much more subjective than if a diamond is well cut.

Below is a lovely diamond. It was well cut with a lot of sparkle- no small feat considering the color. It's even more difficult for the cutter to get sparkle while trying to cut in a manner that maximizes the color.
It was well cut,  although it had an unusual model ( for us)


I'm sure the diamond lovers among you will notice the color first and foremost - it was a Fancy light Pink. A strong one at that. For that reason, I did not consider the shape a deficit.

But truth be told, I don't think I'd love a colorless pear shape with that model.

Here's a more organic model


When I say "Organic" I mean that the pear share- to me- is evocative of a tear drop. As such is should have a point at one end, opposed by a semi circular shape at the other end.
The pink had a flat bottom.

Not that any pear with a flat bottom is....bad.
In fact, there are surely folks that will disagree about what makes a nice model for a pear shape diamond.

What do YOU like?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 11:48:20 PM »

Here's a more organic model


What do YOU like?

 wow DropGob Score-101010 Score-101010 THAT is one SPECTACULAR stone!   easterbunny IMHO
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 11:52:52 PM »

If the cut was equal on both pears, for me, I'd rather go for the "organic" one.  To me, when someone says that they have a pear diamond, the "organic" shape comes to mind, not the other shapes.  But I like the color of the pink one!!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 12:18:31 AM »

 david Just out of curiosity what is the difference in a "pear" and a "tear drop" shaped stone?  Or are they one and the same?   Evil
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 08:27:18 AM »

Tough question---I don't think that I can choose a favorite shape, I think I would have to take a look at each stone and judge on a stone by stone basis!

The first pear's shape reminds me of my Pink Lady Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 10:01:11 AM »

Well, I know that I love the one you posted, and honestly, I would not have turned down that pink one if it had been offered to me, but yes, that is because of the color and not the shape.  I guess I like them like a nice fat tear drop.  I think mine is pretty perfect!



Oh, and this one!!!

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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 10:21:13 AM »

I know when I chose my pear shaped diamond--the shape was a huge factor!   I really like the make and model of my pear! Wink (It is my perfectly, pudgey, pear)

David, would the "flat bottom" of the pink pear effect the price of the stone  -or would  that make no difference since someone may prefer that shape?    pear2
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 04:52:25 PM »

Pears are, to me, the ultimate diamond pendant. I love my pear more than I can describe. It's quite pudgy, a nice fat teardrop shape.

It's an M colour and it's an SI2. I think it's the cut that makes it easily one of the most beautiful and mesmerising diamonds I've ever seen. David picked it out and it's stunning. I will never tire of looking at that pear. Just look at all these fiery colours in there. It has sooo much personality!



Similar shape, totally different cut. Completely different look - pears are versatile!



Pears. Love em! Great thread.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 05:16:30 PM »

A beautiful pendant Jen. It`s the first time I`ve seen it. I think pears are one of the most elegant diamond shapes which never date. I`ll nip up the motorway to borrow it should I ever have an audience with Her Majesty  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 05:27:46 PM »

If you drive all that way to visit, you can have the matching earrings too! Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 05:30:53 PM »

Naaah I wouldn`t want to overshadow the Queen`s bling  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 05:45:25 PM »

LOL.
That would be a little vulgar! Mind you, she gets to wear the tiara, so we'd probably be safe enough with our little pears!

Anyone got any more pear shapes and styles to show?

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 07:00:41 PM »

david Just out of curiosity what is the difference in a "pear" and a "tear drop" shaped stone?  Or are they one and the same?   Evil

Hi Everyone!

This is a good question. It brings up the discrepancy about names of cuts.
When I used to sell diamonds in the Caribbean, all the store owners were Indian. They speak such a lovely brand of English.
They always called pear shaped diamonds "Teardrops"
"Do you have a Teardrop David" ( I can hear the accent in my head)
But in the States, all the stores I used to sell to called them Pear Shapes.

Anyway, to my knowledge, there's no difference between a pear shape and a tear drop.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 07:07:59 PM »

AZ- your heart is actually 100% organic heart.
There's quite a few .....less than graceful heart shapes. Ones that look like modified pears.....
( I suppose we need a heart shaped thread as well!)
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 07:38:01 PM »

Ya wanna know a secret?  I don't really care for pears in rings.  I think that whole point up/point down thing is just too bewildering for me  Wink.

But when I saw my sweet lil' pudgy baby-fat pear, I knew it was Just Right for a pendant-- and boy, is it.  My pendant is one of my absolute FAVORITE possessions.  I actually have to make myself wear other jewelry sometimes-- I have quite a few pretty earrings and necklaces, so some of the others should get an airing every once in awhile.

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 07:40:21 PM »

Robin I share that secret... But I agree, something with pears as a pendant, and especially side stones? Makes my heart flutter!
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 08:25:15 PM »

Another important phrase involving the cut of a pear shape is "bowtie"


Here's what causes bow ties in pear shapes: The facet patern in a pear shape is based rughly on that of a round briliant cut. The basis of this "brilliant' faceting is dividing the diamond into 8 parts. Look at the round I've marked up below, and you should be able to notice what I'm talking about.



Theoretically, we can divide this circle into 8 equal parts.

The culet is at the intersection of these lines, and all the main facets are based around this design.


Divide a teardrop ( insert Hindi accent here) into 8 parts, and they are all different.
Still, they meet at the culet, and all the facets are based no these 8 parts.



It's the longer facets created by the inherent shape that sometimes causes the effect.

Is a bow tie bad?

Not neccesarily. In fact,the difference in facet size it's part of the essense and beauty of the cut.
There are stones where it can be viewed as a detraction- I am very particular about this aspect - we don't carry "bad bowtie" stones.

Below is an example of a pear shape that has a bit of the bow tie effect, yet it does not detract from the beauty....

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 09:46:44 PM »

 david  I am sorry if this is a  Blond-Moment BUT I really have never heard of the "bowtie" thingy you are talking about- and don't "see it" in the photos...probably because I don't know what exactly I am looking for!!!!   N1i'mconfusedHL Would you  N1Please2HL1 explain it  when you get a chance...
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2007, 10:04:52 PM »

No Problem!
Here's I've outlined what could be termed as a "bowtie" on this yellow.


You can see why it got the name, if you look at the shape of the darker area in the center.
Still, the stone remains desirable because of it's color- and the fact that it's weaknesses in cut don't really affect the sparkle or life.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2007, 10:20:14 PM »

No Problem!
Here's I've outlined what could be termed as a "bowtie" on this yellow.


You can see why it got the name, if you look at the shape of the darker area in the center.
Still, the stone remains desirable because of it's color- and the fact that it's weaknesses in cut don't really affect the sparkle or life.
  N1oops03HL2 well when you put it like THAT - I get it completely!     tongue3  Thank you!!!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2007, 10:29:23 PM »

Cool E!
These close ups really exaggerate things as well- which is good for the purposes of making a point.
Looking at the yellow pear in person, the cut is really nice.

In fact, this pear is part of a pair of pears.....
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 10:40:42 PM »

ohhhhh those are a lovely pair of pears  Grin and sure would look nice on either side of a gorgeous round brilliant! devildance
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 10:43:40 PM »

or of course earrings to match GL pendant   Evil
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 11:01:08 PM »

I was actually thinking a "bypass ring"
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 11:03:54 PM »

 david Would the same be true for marquise diamonds? I've seen some with BAD bow ties, and often wondered if they got the "bow tie" for the same reasons some pears do....
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