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« on: February 26, 2009, 01:53:26 PM »
HI all!

We had been discussing a GIA product for mounted diamonds.
Basically it's an identification report- with some info, but is it enough?


There's no mention of any specific color or clarity.
There's no estimated weight.

Looks to me like the enter is an OEC, but they called it round brilliant.

Still, it is a GIA report....
What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2009, 02:43:02 PM »
I don't see the point. I'm probably in the minority. I would not care whether a ring I bought from DBL had one of these or not. Maybe if I was buying elsewhere, but then why would I do that? Kiss
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2009, 02:45:23 PM »
Jen, THANK YOU!!
No need to apologize!!
Your opinion, given honestly, as you did,  is exactly what we need!

I'm really leaning towards not using any more of these,,,,,
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2009, 02:47:59 PM »
LOL - happy to help!

Maybe there is a more balanced view though. You could offer it as an extra or something? I would think that since the GIA produces these ID reports that there are people who do want them, so maybe put it as an option on listings for estate pieces?

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2009, 04:17:31 PM »
That's a good idea, Miz M.  I don't see much point in them, either; but as an option on an estate piece, that might make somebody else who's new around here feel a bit more secure.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2009, 06:03:54 PM »
I'm reminded of the old joke about the guy that gets lost while flying a balloon, and asks another guy on the ground for help, only to be told "You are in an aluminium gondola suspended from a balloon hovering about 27' 3" from the ground". At which point the guy in the balloon says, rather frustrated "You must work in IT. You are giving me totally precise information which is however perfectly useless".
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2009, 06:20:45 PM »
I take it that's a thumbs down OMC?

I had such a hard time even getting them to do this report, as it is.
I needed to have someone from the California office call the clerk in NY and tell them what we wanted!
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2009, 11:54:00 PM »
I cannot read it.  Does it say anything about not being clarity enhanced?
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 01:59:05 AM »
The problem is that there is so little information apart from the fact that it's a diamond and it's high colour (it says "near colorless" if I read that part correctly). Thanks, I knew that. And if I don't trust the seller to the point that I need GIA to tell me this, then why should I trust the seller has kept the stone GIA has seen rather than replacing it with a CZ?

And for those IT people that felt offended above:

The guy on the ground then replies "And you must work in corporate strategy" - "That's right, how do you know?" - "You are on something that you are not able to control, with no idea of where you are and where you are going, and all of a sudden it's all MY fault!"
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 02:51:23 AM »
 laughing4   So very true!
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2009, 03:07:17 AM »
I can barely read the report.

Regardless, the report doesn't appear to give any information that would provide any assurance to the buyer regarding any particular quality issue or authenticity of any part of the ring.  If I were to begin persuing antique rings, I would probably invest in a diamond tester and a 30X loop and deduce the same info on my own.

Does the report address the sapphires?
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 11:42:17 AM »
I think in instances where the customer has not worked with DBL and wants that additional reassurance, it might make sense. We all know David but some have never bought diamonds online. Despite there being a venue that they can meet David online and he'll talk to him on the phone personally, some just need that additional piece of paper.

My question is: Do you have to make a commitment or can you get these as needed? Why not offer it if you don't have to do these things? GIA carries a lot of weight.

Or maybe the issue is that you've been buying these prior a sale as additional validation. lf that's the case, I'm not sure it's worth it. But as something to offer consumers who are not quite certain, it might be a good selling feature. Do they take a long time to get? That's another factor. So, in short, I have a lot of questions before I give a definitive answer!
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 12:04:08 PM »
Funny, OMC.  patpat

I have to scroll back up and see if I can read the report, it is teeny on my screen. Off the cuff, however, I'm not sure that I understand the point of such a report...
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 12:06:44 PM »
Heck, I've had independent appraisers do a much more thorough job than that...
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 12:09:07 PM »
BIG thumbs down from me. And, usually, I like that kind of paper silliness – seriously.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 01:34:28 PM »
I agree with T.   Exactly.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 05:21:56 PM »
It's kind of funny. The conclusion?

diamond

That's it. It's a diamond. But sometimes that's all people want to know.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2009, 05:50:12 PM »
Perhaps we should refer to this as the DUH report... Diamond Under Here?  dontknow Really, this report's purpose is completely lost on me.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2009, 05:51:57 PM »
BTW, David, I appreciate your taking this report out for a test drive. Something like this COULD have been interesting, if not useful. Too bad it is not either, in my view.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2009, 06:18:26 PM »
It sounds actually pretty useless and a waste of money.
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