win diamond earringsfancy colored diamonds colored diamondsfancy colored diamonds yellow diamond jewelryfancy colored diamonds loose pink diamondsfancy colored diamonds engagement rings fancy colored diamonds fancy colored diamonds fancy colored diamonds loose diamonds fancy colored diamonds diamond movies
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 23, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Home Help Search Calendar recent diamond posts recent posts unread posts Login Register

News: DBL  opens brand new colored diamond website!  Now, you can search through millions of dollars of incredible Natural Fancy  Colored and Colorless diamonds with facilities found nowhere else! Search diamond  rings, and loose  diamonds by color, Intensity of yellow, carat weight, price, and diamond  shape. SEE FORUM RULES and our PRIVACY POLICY. DiamondsbyLauren photobucket  page . DiamondsbyLauren Youtube  Channel
 
 
Our Toll Free Number 1-877-952-8736. International callers 001-212-382-3770.

+  coloreddiamond.info
|-+  DIAMOND & GEMSTONE INFORMATION
| |-+  GIA Reports, Diamond Color Grading, Cut Questions
| | |-+  K-L-M-N-O
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: K-L-M-N-O  (Read 3197 times)
ezzy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 7


« on: March 02, 2007, 09:40:41 PM »

Hey there,
I am new and have been speaking with DJ about finding a diamond that has just a hint of color.

My question: When looking on the D-Z scale, does it only include hints of yellow?

For instance colors M-N-O-P are "faint yellow" are they never "faint peach" (brownish pink) or "faint pink"Huh???

Would "faint pink" just automatically be super expensive even if it were so faint as an M-N-O-P?
As you can probably figure out, I'm hoping to buy a diamond at an "M" price and see brownish pink instead of brownish yellow.  Grin

Thanks for any imput you have. 4
Logged
webmistress
Admin
CDI Member
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4561



WWW
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 10:16:23 PM »

Welcome ezzy.

Well, David can address certain of these points more specifically. But if it's graded y-z, it's yellow. It can have fluorescence and look different. If it has a dash of brown, the gia calls it something like brownish yellow. Now there are diamonds that have a touch of brown in them that you can BARELY see and you get a good deal because of it. There are white/coloreless diamonds called "top brown" in the trade. Some of these don't show brown but can face up white.

Finding just the right one at the right price simply requires your checking the new items or this board. We've already posted some here, they've sold before ever making it to the website or ebay.

Faint pink is expensive even if it's hard to tell it's pink. The deals in pinks are getting harder to come by but David will run across one with a hint of brown. As for peach, I'll leave that one to David. He's seen far more than I have but he is on vacation right now.

M-N-O-P are tinted but they can face up whiter or yellower. But I don't think they ever face up pinkish. If you want to see brownish pink you'll have to look at brown pink, pinkish brown and some light browns that might have a pinkish tint.  The cutters are really good at spotting the slightest tint of pink since they fetch good prices.
Logged

Webmistress for http://diamondsbylauren.com
DBL Web Designer, CDI Administrator

  Dare to be different. See colored diamond rings.
diamondjunkie
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 6525


« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 03:18:33 AM »

Hi ezzy!  Welcome to the forum!   hello

I'm sure David will chime in here.  He's currently vacationing in Mexico but I know he will address your questions as soon as he can.

I found a thread that might interest you on one of our member's marquise diamonds that was recently sent to GIA.  Check out page 3 for more pictures of it along with a light brown cushion that looks pink in some lights. 

http://coloreddiamon...ing-3-45-marquise/0/
Logged
acebruin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3016



WWW
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2007, 04:19:39 AM »

i think when they use D-Z, it's for colorless to yellow...  when there's pink involve like light pink, they don't call it M-O which is very light yellow...  they'd call it Natural Light Pink...
Logged

Diamondsbylauren
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 8069



WWW
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2007, 09:45:35 AM »

Hi Ezzy!
It is a great question, thanks for asking it!
Generally diamonds below J color are tinted yellow.
I've seen cases of diamonds which had brown as their tint, and if it's a light brown, it can be quite attractive.
Browns, as a rule, are kind of lumped together.
"Fine Top Light Brown" is a shade that can be a light as I color.
So what happens when one of these "brownies" has a slight pink tinge....NOW it get`s it`s own color.
Might be faint brownish pink, or faint pinkish brown.
If it was deeper- say equivalent to an M color, the price could be quite high.

Trying to make sense of a "pricing structure" on these stones is impractical.
There`s no strong patterns other than pink is expensive.
If two diamonds get the same GIA color grade, but one shows a lot of pink, it will bring a much higher price.

We have been experimenting with all kinds a ways to make a slightly brown look pink...there`s a 2 carat cushion we had very nice results with discussed elsewhere on the forum.


We have a 1.62 carat round which is faint pink. It`s really kinda hard to see the pink, although it is still loose, and mounting helps a ton in this deprtment.
Still, we need to get about$60K for it.

This taco is off to the Pyramids!!!!
Logged

David
Check out our YouTube Channel
GracefulLion
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3941



« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 09:58:59 AM »

Gosh, are you really going to force me to post pictures of my rings???  Oh, I guess I have been let no choice.

1. My faint brown cushion, which has been set in rose gold and really reads now set as a faint brownish pink or peach.  This one did not go to GIA, but David called it faint brown.

2. My fancy deep brownish yellow cushion - much less expensive than a fancy light yellow, but MUCH deeper in color, and everyone who looks at it just asks "Is that a canary!"

3. My mom's light orangy yellow marquise.  It looked faint brown to me when really staring at it, but looking at it on someone else's hand and in most light it looks very white.

4. For comparison, all three mentioned above together with with my G colored round brilliant in a halo of F colored small rbs.

[attachment older than 120 days deleted by admin]
Logged
GracefulLion
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3941



« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 10:01:51 AM »

Uh oh.  Do not know why the faint brown cushion did not post.  Here it is. . .

[attachment older than 120 days deleted by admin]
Logged
ezzy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 7


« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2007, 12:22:29 PM »

Wow Lion! You have a great collection.  I actually saw your marshmellow picture on another topic and was trying to figure out what color stone you had--which turned out to be the light brown cushion set in rose gold.


I am undecided, but what's the rush?  I know I won't buy a pink diamond.  It is simply out of my price range.  But this forum is really helpful in giving me some other options.

 Thanks for the input so far!
Logged
ezzy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 7


« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 12:28:14 PM »

By the way.  Here is a picture of the ring I had made.  This one is not mine--it was the original one the jewelry had made about a year ago.
I'm still unsure how a "hint" of color would look or if I would want to change the color of the prongs.

[attachment older than 120 days deleted by admin]
Logged
diamondjunkie
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 6525


« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2007, 01:45:14 PM »

Let me just say ezzy, that there are an awful lot of CDI members kicking themselves pretty darn hard for letting the light brown cushion slip past them (myself included) - if they had seen it set and displaying so much pink, there would have been a public brawl in the diamond district...... Grin

Certainly how you set a stone can influence it's appearance to your eye and that's something you will need to consider.  I am convinced that the next time David has a stunning light brown, there will be little, if any, hesitation from the members here and it will, I'm sure, go straight into rose gold prongs.  GL's is simply incredible.

In the meantime, dive in here and bounce your ideas around - everyone here loves to discuss and help!
Logged
webmistress
Admin
CDI Member
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 4561



WWW
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2007, 04:34:35 PM »

I agree. I keep going back and forth on whether to make the orange page a brown one as well since those colors merge so often.  But I think I have enough diamonds to do a brown page now.

When I get ready to do this I might ask for help from you guys. What I mean is that I might have you post all your photos in one place. Tracking down the diamonds and the reports is what takes most of the time. I've not had much of that lately! But I do love to make those chart pages.
Logged

Webmistress for http://diamondsbylauren.com
DBL Web Designer, CDI Administrator

  Dare to be different. See colored diamond rings.
DiamondLady
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 803



« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 08:34:08 PM »

ezzy, here are some pics of a diamond I used to have.

It was graded at an independent lab (not GIA) as O-P.  I have showed it to a lot of people and they all thought it was more like an L-M. Since it was not sent to GIA I really didn't know for sure what color it was.

It's hard to believe it's all the same stone. In some lighting it did look very slightly yellow, yet in other light it was bright and very white.

I think the range of K to P has some really great color choices.

[attachment older than 120 days deleted by admin]
Logged

Nope, nuh-uh, it wasn't me, I swear it!
Snooper
Guest
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 09:59:43 PM »

That's a good picture for comparison Rhonda!! I have to agree that the warmer colors can look VERY white, it just depends on the lightening and how well cut the stone is.
Logged
DiamondLady
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 803



« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2007, 11:39:07 AM »

Amy, I had to sell it to get something else.. of course! Wish I didn't have to, but it was necessary at the time.

And I agree that that diamond did NOT look like an O-P to me either. I bought it as an L. But the independent lab gave it the O-P grade. I never agreed with them on that!
Logged

Nope, nuh-uh, it wasn't me, I swear it!
stacy
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 29


« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 04:18:41 PM »

Let me just say ezzy, that there are an awful lot of CDI members kicking themselves pretty darn hard for letting the light brown cushion slip past them (myself included) - if they had seen it set and displaying so much pink, there would have been a public brawl in the diamond district...... Grin

Teehee--a public brawl in the diamond district would NOT be a good thing, but that visual cracked me up!
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Subscribe to RSS Feed http://coloreddiamond.info/images/rss-icon.jpg