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« on: March 01, 2007, 01:25:25 PM »

Hi everyone,
Before I head out, I stopped over to one of our most amazing cutters.
He's just come back from a buying trip.
To start, let's have  a look at a few pieces of rough.
First up is a diamond which will be sawed into a top, and bottom, the bottom will be about 2 times the size of the top.
The weight of this piece is 45.73carats.
The color is strong yellow- while I was photographing these diamonds, our head cutter was conferring about the possible yeild- what color anbd size will we end up with?
We're figuring the color to be Fancy Yellow- possibly Intense Yellow.

Later on, I'll post photos, and video, of an amazing machine used to help us decide exactly what to cut to end up with the most beautiful diamond that also maximized the monetary yeild.
Remember, no matter how small the diamond finishes, our cost for the 45.73carat rough diamond is fixed.
If we cut it into the World's nicest .02 diamond, it would be quite a costly one!


Now, let's have a look at this huge piece....



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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2007, 01:29:01 PM »

This is FASCINATING!

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2007, 01:42:33 PM »

i agree...  i've never seen any colored rough before...
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2007, 01:46:35 PM »

wow. talk about a boulder. i was wondering though, is it more profitable to cut a big diamond like that into lots of smaller diamonds? or say 1 beautifully cut 32 ct? how does the cutter decide? SAQ     Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2007, 02:06:33 PM »

Hey Saq,
Many years ago, cutters would take a large piece and cut it into a lot of 2carat diamonds, for example.
Today, large pieces are prized, and bring much higher prices on a per carat basis.
Want to get an even better look?
Here's a THE MOVIE
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 02:10:40 PM »

One important aspect to notice here: This 45ct piece is an octahedron.
That is a shape looking like two pyramids stacked base to base.
This is the type of rough will be sawed before cutting.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2007, 02:14:53 PM »

Last post before I need to leave for the airport....

Another category of rough is called "Make-able"
That  means is that the shape of the rough dictates that the cutter put the piece in the wheel as is, no sawing.






We will have the move of this one up later....
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »

It says I edited but the address was incorrect so I just corrected the link.

I'll you tube this one so everyone can see it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 02:55:23 PM »

Wow, how cool and interesting this is!  That rough is a whopper! I don't think I even want to know how much a 46ct rough costs.  Thanks for posting this!
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2007, 06:29:31 PM »



You Tube for those who have a .wmv computer video file disability.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2007, 06:44:25 PM »

This is truly fascinating!  Thanks for doing a U-Tube WM!   I really enjoy seeing the process of a diamond being cut from the  rough to the finish!  It will be even more interesting to see what color they will be and what shapes they choose to cut it into!   ~Ronda
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2007, 08:18:34 PM »

I couldn't leave you out of this one, ronda.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 10:38:27 PM »

 bighug   Oh you know me too well WM!  Thanks for thinking of me!  a08
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2007, 12:45:35 AM »

WM i'm actually on a linux box...  so that youtube videos help me as well!   angel  thanks!!!    webmistressrock
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2007, 04:31:45 PM »

I absolutely LOVE to hear about the techniques, and the "how to's" of the diamond business. So this thread is quite fascinating to me. Thanks David!!

Am looking forward to seeing the end result(s)!  happy1
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2007, 05:23:56 PM »

Ok, a stone's rough shape and color must dictate which cuts will be most successful. But, who decides which stones go to which cutters? Do certian types of rough diamonds go to certain cutters, and other types to other cutters? How common is it for a cutter to "specialize?"
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2007, 05:25:16 PM »

i would think cutters buy roughs from miners...  or cutters get stones from whoever is giving stones to them to cut...
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2007, 05:56:57 PM »

I know DeBeers has a lot to do with the rough supply.  It is my understanding that everything is done on a handshake, and they hand you a packaged parcel, and then you say thank  you very much and genuflect on the way out the door.  No cherry picking.  No questioniong what they gave you.   So,  besides them, where else do people get the rough?  I know we pay more than the market would dictate for diamonds because the supply, though plentiful,  is controlled.  However, that wouldn't work  if people didn't want diamonds......and I definitely want diamonds.....

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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2007, 08:21:43 PM »

Companies that buy from DeBeers are called "Site-holders"
The "site" happens 10 times a year.
That's when the rough diamonds are doled out.
As Bunny suggested, it's an all or nothing purchase.
Refuse twice, and you don't get invited again.

Today, a lot of what we do comes from sources that are outside this channel.
It is worth more for some cutters to buy exactly what they need, rather than having to buy a full specturm of goods, some of which are undesirable.

I don't know the current figue, but I believe DeBeers controls abouyt 60% of the rough, leaving quite a bit for us to get our hot little hands on!

The term  "cutter" is not really specific.
The guy that bought these amazinbg rough pieces unbderstands how to cut a diamond amazingly well, yet he no longer sits behind a cutting wheel.
Instead, we hire people whos work we know, and love.

Hõw do new guys break in~¿
They apprentice.
Ain-t NOBODY but the best touching these pieces of rough

PS= I really can NOT figure out the Mexican Keyboard system.....
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2007, 09:16:44 PM »

Thanks David. Umm, are you sure it's the Mexican keyboard that's got your fingers in a twist?   I hear those margaritas can be pretty potent!!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2007, 09:19:42 PM »

Thanks David. Umm, are you sure it's the Mexican keyboard that's got your fingers in a twist?   I hear those margaritas can be pretty potent!!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 11:11:37 PM »

Very cool thread, David!  Anyone interested in a great novel about the diamond trade in New York and how DeBeers (aka, the System) doles out diamonds, read Daniel A. Browne's "11 Harrowhouse".  You can get it used on Amazon for pennies.  It is a page-turning fascinating look at the way things work...one of those books you can't put down.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2007, 09:56:04 AM »

Thanks for the suggestion CH...I will have to go look for that book!~Ronda
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2007, 08:49:29 PM »




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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2007, 10:53:18 PM »

In the post above, I've shot a colorless rough.
This one exhibits the classic "ochtehedron" shape- this diamond will be sawed before cutting, prodcuing two diamonds form this rough.

here's some photos.....

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