Hahahah

[dovesgate]

So I found out how the scam artists get their diamond reports.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...;hash=item35b3cf14dd

Hope its ok that I link this because its hilarious! (At least to me)

[oldmancoyote]

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. There's more than one for sale...

[Mrs Mitchell]

Oh good heavens. I can think of NO legitimate reason to want one of these if you don't own or plan to own the diamond.

[DiamondsAreForever]

That is just awful.  I can't believe there are other auctions for more of the same.  Arrrggggh.

[Trinkette]

Hilarious and ohhh-sooo agonizing at the same time.   

[clgwli]

i should be shocked by this, but after a lot of the shady stuff we have seen online on ebay I am not shocked.  So sad yet so funny!

[Mikla]

That should be illegal.  Buying fake documents?

[enhu]

ebay has the poorest support ever and there is no way they'd delete the sales pages of that scam.

[oldmancoyote]

Although I agree with you that eBay is not great at this kind of thing, the problem is that there is no scam or fake.

The fraud/scam is committed outside of eBay when the (genuine) report is associated to a stone that is not the one for which the report was issued. How would eBay (or anyone else) know without inspecting the stone?

[dovesgate]

It isn't technically buying a fake document. Someone really sent that stone to EGL for a report and now they are selling the report without the diamond so that someone else can scam an unsuspecting buyer.

[enhu]

Although I agree with you that eBay is not great at this kind of thing, the problem is that there is no scam or fake.

The fraud/scam is committed outside of eBay when the (genuine) report is associated to a stone that is not the one for which the report was issued. How would eBay (or anyone else) know without inspecting the stone?

thing is that, when someone report about scam, they don't do anything about it instead of investigating about the issue. probably just laughing behind the monitor.
 they should have provide a payment system to avoid such transactions.

[dovesgate]

they should have provide a payment system to avoid such transactions.

The purchase of the document or the future fraudulent sale of the stone? The only acceptable payment through eBay is PayPal. From what I've seen, it is skewed so that buyers have more protection than sellers so someone buying the stone through eBay ought to be protected. However, there isn't anything illegal about selling the document so eBay can't do a thing about it even if they wished to.

[oldmancoyote]

thing is that, when someone report about scam, they don't do anything about it instead of investigating about the issue. probably just laughing behind the monitor.
 they should have provide a payment system to avoid such transactions.

Again - I agree that eBay is not the most proactive or well policed market place; then again, they have millions of items advertised in hundreds of categories and thousands of vendors residing in dozens of countries, and they charge peanuts for their services - try selling through Sotheby's or Christie's and then tell me.

The transaction itself is not illegal. It's the use that someone else - NOT eBay - makes of the document after the sale that may be illegal.