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« Reply #125 on: October 02, 2007, 02:03:46 AM »

I agree on the matching issue.  I have a 1/2ct EC that I would love to match but I know I'm not going to be able to, so I'm making other plans instead.  As far as the center, I think you are probably dead right.  Kudos to you for keeping quiet though - that has to be hard!
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« Reply #126 on: October 02, 2007, 05:43:04 AM »

Now granted, I'm a horrible person, but I would find it virtually impossible to keep my big mouth shut. I would never be able to go out for a drink with that person, because then it would all come pouring out after the first beer! Grin

Well done you for keeping it to yourself - willpower queen!

DJ - what you got planned for that lovely EC? I take it this is the one you inherited? (If it was mine, I'd go for a baguette halo ring or pendant. Want to trade it for something of mine??? I love ECs best of all! Grin)

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« Reply #127 on: October 02, 2007, 11:57:29 AM »

Yes that's the one Jen.  I won't sell or trade it as it was DH's grandmothers and I really like it too!  The current plan is to send it back to David and have it set in the center of a band style ring with 2 asschers on either side - kinda like the 5 stone asscher bands he already does but with an EC in the center.

I should add here that I haven't even asked if it's possible!
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« Reply #128 on: October 02, 2007, 04:44:43 PM »

That sounds like a wonderful plan. I'd like one like that too. Or I could borrow yours, right?? Grin

So would you have the EC set east west and lined up with asschers the same width? Or have the EC North South, more like a 3 stone?

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« Reply #129 on: October 03, 2007, 03:41:12 AM »

Yes E/W - I'm thinking it would be fab!  I would wear it with my ER which would make for some serious bling on my left hand!
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« Reply #130 on: October 03, 2007, 09:24:15 AM »

DJ-I love the idea of an E-W set EC, I've been drooling over this one lately Smiley


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« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2007, 09:37:38 AM »

This ring reminds me a little of Camilla Parker-Bowles´s engagement ring.
I love it.
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« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2007, 10:12:34 AM »

I love this E/W EC.  I think it would make an incredible RHR.

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« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2007, 12:47:16 PM »

Absolutely GL!  I have often thought about adding that one to my collection.  I even showed it to DH last weekend!  I think it's just lovely and you are right - a perfect RHR.

DL, that E/W EC looks awesome with those baguettes - really nice!  I would how one would look with bullets??
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« Reply #134 on: October 03, 2007, 01:16:09 PM »

The EW with baguettes, only asschers instead of the baguettes, right?

Oh yes, I think you might find you could live with that! It would look like a band carved straight out of diamond.

That's going to rock!

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« Reply #135 on: October 04, 2007, 08:23:53 AM »

I love that EC GL!!! Smiley  Would take it in a heartbeat!
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« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2007, 03:44:48 PM »

Add me to the list of those who love that E-W EC, GL!

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« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2007, 12:12:56 AM »

Ok, I was trying to sell something as I was telling mskerryk tonight.  And the lady was glad I had a GIA report, and I showed her the appraisal so she knew how many diamonds were on this piece, yada yada... And she's like "All I need to see is the GIA" and I'm like "Don't you want to know how many diamonds are on the shank for resale??" Needless to say this lady thought I knew nothing about diamonds and the selling of a ring didn't go through.  She kept saying how I can't expect to get what I paid for when I sell things (Duh, thanks for stating the obvious).  It was a waste of time, but I'll give her props as she did like my EC ring Smiley

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« Reply #138 on: October 18, 2007, 12:18:40 AM »

I have a story like Piglette's. 

It makes me so mad when people get screwed over!   There is this jewelry store in town that is the "nice" jewelry store.  It has high end stuff, but people here act like it is the Smithsonian or something.  The reason they do is because the owner is such a lyer that they believe these rediculous lies that he tells.  People will pay anything he asks because he makes up these dramatic tales about each piece.  First of all he tells people that HE PERSONALLY hand makes each piece.  This is a joke because my Mom is friends with all of the jewelers in town and they laugh behind his back at how he cannot even set a stone in a stock setting and commissions out his work.  He never explains to people the difference between a lost wax model ring and a stock setting.  All of his rings come from stock settings...and not even good ones.   


So here is the story of how my friend was a victim of this jeweler. 
All she wanted from the time she could remember was an emerald cut stone.  It could either be a sapphire or a diamond as long as it was an EC.  Her family had dealt with this jeweler so she sent her soon-to-be fiance to the store and told them to take care of him.  He went in and told them what she wanted and what his budget was.  They told him that a diamond was out of the question and that they would search for an emerald cut sapphire, but that it would cost because they were so rare.  Months past and the jeweler produced nothing.  When the boyfriend would ask, the jeweler would tell him that these things took time and that they were searching the WORLD for this emerald cut sapphire.  Fianally the jeweler said that it was impossible to find an emerald cut sapphire and that he would have to settle for the oval cut sapphire that he happened to have in the back.  The boyfriend did not know any better so he said "OK. " 

The jeweler then told him that the oval would be nice with some half moons.  Then he told him that half moons were rare and he would have to "go to Europe and get them especially cut" for the ring.  Are you guys getting a picture of the BS that is getting spread here???

I see my friend after she gets the ring and she does not seem 100% satisfied.  I ask her what is wrong and she launches into a million excuses as to why she has an oval instead of the EC she wanted and how rare it was to have half moons and how the jeweler HIMSELF hand made the ring.  GET THIS...then at the end she tells me how she will never get the EC because this ring was so rare and hard to make that they will be paying on it the rest of their lives.  THE BOYFRIEND WAS A DOCTOR!!! Can you only imagine what they charged him for that RING!   
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« Reply #139 on: October 18, 2007, 12:39:09 AM »

AWFUL!!!! Does she still have the ring? I would have returned it, but of course, she didn't know better nor did her fiance.  Infuriating! People working hard to buy a piece of jewelry, only to get taken by people like this!  Angry Angry
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« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2007, 12:42:54 AM »

It is a beautiful ring...not "I searched the world" for beautiful but pretty.   That must have been his gig for a while because I complemented another girl on her ring and she said "thanks, jeweler whats-his-name went to Europe to hand pick this stone."  I want to say "Are you on crack?"  PLEASE!   No one has turned him in yet.  Someone should turn him in.  

Another bad story that happened to my family.  My great grandfather was the manager of a major department store and they had a gemologist that would literally go all over the world for the rough stones and bring them back and have them cut in NY.  My great grand father wanted to get a gem quality ruby.  The buyer brought it back and the story goes that they had the team at Harry Winston cut the stone and set it in a custom made setting.  I guess they did that then.  It was passed down and my grandmore had it.  She gave it to be sized to this criminal "jeweler" who said that he cracked the stone and for insurance purposes he had the throw the ring away so they would not fault in our care of the ring.  They later found out that she was selling everything and replacing things with synthetics.  My grandmother was not as a aggressive as I might have been.  The guy is in Jail now.  He has a similar story where he said he ruined a persons southsea pearls.  I would have killed him over that as well.  
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« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2007, 09:23:52 AM »

I remember an old lady we knew who sent her pearls to be restrung and they got lost!!!  The jeweller told her she could pick any pearl necklace he had in his shop to replace it.  He was very surprised when she told him that he would find her necklace as quickly as possible or she would go to the police.  He obviously didn´t realise she knew exactly how much her pearls were worth. BTW the necklace turned up.
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« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2007, 10:21:23 AM »

These stories are appalling to say the least.  It is one thing to be fed a line of BS but then to STEAL someones special piece or hierloom is beyond words!!! Angry Angry  GRRR!
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« Reply #143 on: October 18, 2007, 04:55:39 PM »

Wow -- Two fascinating (although infuriating) stories, GIA Girl.  I believe that in an earlier era, they might have been called "cautionary tales."

The sapphire story is so absurd!  An honest jeweler should just hear the budget; give a professional opinion on whether the desired jewelery is possible on that budget; if not possible, then suggest alternatives or else give an opinion as to a realistic budget for the desired item; then find good stones and make the damned thing!!!!  (HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO !)

The story about the ruby -- well, obviously, "criminal" in both the figurative and the literal senses of the term.

BTW -- Speaking of rubies (off-topic, but someone here will know) ... I have a smooth (cabochon) cut red stone in a very old setting, that came from my husband's grandmother.  She had dime-store junk, and she had old-family-money pieces.  I think that this stone is a pleasant garnet, set in an old brooch.  But it occurred to me that it could be a different stone (ruby?).  Short of taking it to a jeweler and asking for an opinion (which I could do, but feel bad about doing because it is so awkward to NOT pay, and yet would be silly to pay for a full appraisal if the stone is junk), any suggestions on how to tell what the stone is?  Does anyone here have much experience in getting a quick is-it-worth-an-appraisal opinion from a jeweler?

Again, GIA -- thanks -- but GRRRRRRR!
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« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2007, 05:13:25 PM »

What about a picture Piglette?
  There was a time when all ladies had what they called carbuncles.  They are beautiful almadine garnets usually cut in cabochon.  I love them.  I may be wrong but my guess is that is what your stone is, I think it is unusual to cut rubies that way (??) They are more of a red wine red if you know what I mean.

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« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2007, 06:32:09 PM »

Joia --  Thanks!

Hmmm.. could do a picture.  Probably ought to go on a different thread, though... I don't want to hijack this one more than already done.

I do think the stone is a garnet.  I, too, have always thought that rubies are rarely (ever?) cut into smooth shapes.

Thanks again!
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« Reply #146 on: October 19, 2007, 01:44:56 AM »

They do cut rubies into cabochons but not normally the top grade stones.  Those are most certainly faceted.  Piglette, is it completely free of inclusions?  How would you describe the color?  A pic would be great but I'll watch for a new thread if you prefer.......heck, you might have already started one!  Off to check.
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« Reply #147 on: November 20, 2007, 11:14:50 PM »

Yikes!  I totally forgot that I went to a local jewelry store and they had a color treated 3ct princess cut for $35000.00  They thought it was an awesome deal.   
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« Reply #148 on: November 21, 2007, 12:25:52 AM »

OMG!!! That's terrible!
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« Reply #149 on: November 21, 2007, 08:08:13 AM »

gia-did you have a hard time not laughing!?!?!
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