Hi Everyone,.
I added a little bit to this title as I was about to post this exact thread last night, cept is was time for a siesta.....
I suppose great minds think alike!
In addition to the amazing letter we got about how cut is not important in natural fancy colored diamonds, yesterday brought another very interesting episode.
It started when we sold a beautiful Light Yellow diamond of almost 3 carats to a client of ours.... a returning client.


The diamond has a "color origin" GIA report, meaning we graded the clarity, and we graded it VS1.
When I can't see anythiing at all in a diamond, we call it VS1. I dn`'t feel it's our place to call it VVS, or Internally Flawless.
The reason is that the imperfections which constitute a VVS2, or 1 are so incredibly tiny, I leave that to GIA.

Anyway, this particualr diaomnd shipped loose.
As it turns out, our client was going to have it set locally.
When she got it back, the jeweler who set it was nice enough to ask her
"why did you buy a diamond with this big black spot?"
Sure enough, the diamond has a big black spot, easily visible to our valued client.
Of course, we get a very upset phone call.
"What an I going to do?
 It's past the money back period and I do NOT want a diamond with a black spot I can see"

I actually never spoke to her yesterday.
What happened was this: She took a tissue, and wiped of a peice of gunk the person who set the diamond had left on it.
Viola- I1, back to VS1.

What really gets me is that the setter  and jewelr must have known full well what they were seeing, and in fact, I think they left it there to spoil her enjoyment..
Some people.....

Woah!  Some jewellers will obviously stop at nothing - that's one messed up story David!

You know what I hate?  When jewellers (and I've had this happen a few times) try to tell me, "No the diamonds in that ring aren't at all warm - they are just picking up the color from the yellow gold" - even when the heads they are mounted in are WHITE.  I had one actually say, "Yes they look tinted but if you were to remove them from the setting you would see that they are completely colorless."

I still wish I told her to go get a pair of jewelry pliers.........

*sigh* There's just so much about that scenario that's WRONG.  I don't mean to criticize someone's coice of a jeweler, but, really, it doesn't seem her jeweler did much RIGHT during the entire transaction.  At the most basic level, wouldn't you think they'd have CLEANED the ring before showing it to a client (let alone let it leave the shop)?  Where's the pride in work here?  After that, I'd be apprehensive about the quality of workmanship performed all around on the ring.

What a shame to spoil what should have been such a fun and exciting experience. I'm afraid I must agree with David, it sounds like a bit of sour grapes to me (although, I suppose, it COULD be rampant carelessness or, perhaps, they were all just total nitwits). Regardless, I hope she loves what is sure to be a beautiful diamond...
 

Don't anyone get me wrong, I'm open to all diamonds but for crying out loud represent them with honesty! If they are warmer in color, the jeweller could easily point out that many people prefer them that way.  If the ring is clearly meant to have icy white stones, they shouldn't try to pass off L, M, or N stones as G!  Grrrr!     It makes me really cross and I have known people to fall for it.

Good example ronda. Those invisible settings are not very secure. 

My personal favourite was a local maul jeweller who had got a bunch of branded ideal cuts and was having a big promotion on them. They were lovely, but way overpriced. The sales assistant asked if I wanted to view them through an idealscope, then handed me....

wait for it....

a magnifying glass!

Jen

OMG!  Jen, tell me that was your cue to flee the store amid screams of laughter!!!  Geez!  I think even a clueless jewelry shopper knows what a magnifying glass looks like!

Another pet peeve of mine is when you go in and ask for a loupe, only to have the sales assistant decide she knows best.  She's there holding it at arms length a couple of inches away from the piece while closing one eye and saying, "Looks good to me!"  I can't tell you how many times I have rolled my eyes, taken the loupe and checked a piece out properly.  At that point you can see the penny drop in the sales persons eyes.  "Yes, dear, I know what I'm talking about and I have indeed sussed that you don't........."

Acebruin, I fell about and laughed like your smilies are doing now.  Then I headed for the door, DJ.

Actually, that's not quite true. An overwhelming sense of morbid curiosity made me stay awhile and ask for a bit of information about buying diamonds and what to look for...

DH was so embarrassed he began to twitch.

Jen

My ER diamond is also an H with strong blue fluorescence.  It certainly doesn't look cloudy, oily, or anything of the kind!  Like yours, it's a beautiful diamond, IMO.

--Robin

If I remember right, Snooper owns an idealscope.....

I carry a loupe too. I thought I was just a bit odd, so good to know there are others out there...

Jen

I do have an idealscope.  This weekend I'll take a pic of the actual thing.  Really basic.  Basically, according to the scope manufacture, yada yada, it's suppose to show you the light leakage (to help you better pick the stone you want if your naked eye can't differentiate).  The more red=less leakage in a nut shell.

I don't use it to determine a well cut diamond, but it's fun to play with:)