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« on: September 25, 2007, 08:00:59 PM »

HI Guys!
I'm sure regular readers will know right off the answer to all vivids being equal- of course not.
In fact, the price of a vivid yellow diamond, in any given size may vary pretty widely. Why is that?


SO- what makes one "better" than another?

Let's start with this guy

ITEM #: R2218
Radiant Cut Diamond, Loose

  WEIGHT: 1.56ct
  SHAPE: Radiant Cut
  COLOR: Fancy Vivid Yellow
  CLARITY: SI1
  MEASUREMENTS: 6.67 x 5.99 x 4.05 mm
  TOTAL DEPTH: 67.6%
  TABLE SIZE: 66%
  POLISH: VG
  SYMMETRY: G
  FLUORESCENCE: FAINT





Ostensibly, clarity would be one of the first things that might come to mind.
In fact, clarity is NOT the primary reason one 1.50 Vivid Yellow might be worth more than another.

What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2007, 08:10:06 PM »

I'm going to let the others answer but Holy Freaking Cow my jaw literally dropped. That table looks different? That is so stunning. Absolutely. She had me at hello.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2007, 08:38:23 PM »

I would say that saturation and the "evenness" of the color would definitely affect the price.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 08:44:58 PM »

i think the clarity in a stone with that intensity of color can be disguised...  that's why the clarity is not the primary reason price would be different...  with the sparkle and color of a good cut stone, you can't even see the flaws...  i mean look at those pictures!  Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2007, 09:18:07 PM »

I agree with Ace.  The stone looks like it has an eight pack!!!
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2007, 11:58:02 PM »

That's so weird-- that is EXACTLY what I thought!
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 12:51:28 AM »

What a stone!  It looks electrified!!! I am guessing that it is about the cut, sparkle, saturation and evenness, etc etc etc...yeah, like Ace said!
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 10:00:00 AM »

Hi all- great answers all!

Someone mentioned "even-ness" of color.
GIA handles that in the description of color- They use the term "Even" in addition to the color intensity...for example: "Fancy Vivid Yellow- even" If GIA called it "Un-even" that would certainly affect the overall price. In fact we've had a few "un=evens" over the years- in cases of the stones we did buy the effect on appearance was NOT marked..... but the price did indicate the GIA comment
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 10:21:13 AM »

I have never seen a diamond with an 8 pack before.  Grin   Woah that is STUNNING!   Beautiful even color to it! hot_stern
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2007, 02:19:56 PM »

My FIY EC was GIA graded uneven in color and when set it was not noticable at all.  It sadly didn't bring the price down too much either  Undecided

Oooo I miss her Sad

I love love love this vivid rad though-YUM!!!
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2007, 03:00:03 PM »

I agree with Ace.  The stone looks like it has an eight pack!!!

LOL i noticed that too!
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2007, 03:51:00 PM »

8-pack- I love it!!

Of course that probably means that you guys like the "make"- or the Cut of the diamond.

IN fact, that is an important component to use when evaluating a vivid yellow ( or any) diamond.

In many cases, stones of Vivid Yellow can be on the deep side.
This does not neccesarily mean it's a bad diamond. But it does mean it will look a bit smaller than a less deep one.

Visual size is a very important aspect.
A slightly deep stone that looks great in terms of sparkle, albeit a little smaller than others of the same weight can still be a desirable diamond. BUt that would certainly be a reason I would pay less than I would for a more "spready" well cut vivid.
A diamond of any depth that has obvious "Cut Problems" is another story entirely. We stay away from those no matter the color, clarity or shape.

Obvious cut problems include: general dullness, dark areas, poor facet placement causing "holes" in the light, unenen girdles- or rough looking areas visible to the eye.....


To sum up- Te cut does play a large role in the desirability of a vivid yellow diamond.
But it's not the main factor.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2007, 03:58:06 PM »

It looks like a SUPER VIVID. I mean a vivid is very saturated but that looks particularly so. Is that what you're seeing David? Or is it the closeup I'm reacting to.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2007, 04:23:33 PM »

Hi Everyone,
In terms of saturation, the 1.56 is pretty good- but by no means "super" saturated.

Which does bring us to the main aspect of a Vivid Yellow , when it comes to evaluating them.
It's the depth and purity of color.
Many times the Vivid Yellow can look...brassy. Hue is extremely critical.
I've seen some "super vivids"
Say a "normal" 1.50 Vivid Yellow would be priced ( in our store) at around $30k.
I've seen 1.50ct Vivid Yellow stones which would price out- in our store- at over $50k.
In a retail environment, these prices would double- at the minimum.

When I questioned the price of a "Super Vivid", the cutter agreed the stone was almost double "market" price- but he did not care.
"Don't buy it", he invited. Of course someone did pay the price. It;s noteworthy that I can not remember the clarity of these diamonds. A "super Vivid" Si1 is worth way more than a lesser colored Internally Flawless Vivid




Depth of color:
Let's imagine that there's a scale of vivid yellow color depth.
A one is a stone that could have been given "Fancy Intense" on another day, a 10 is a "super vivid"

So hue is combined with depth is key in determining the price.
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