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« on: May 25, 2008, 04:02:11 PM »
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I love sapphires and have been looking around a bit.  Several questions come to mind regarding certification (AGTA or GIA) and also heating/no heating.

What can you tell us about the merits of the various certifications and the price difference between heated and non-heated stones?

Thanks - Mikla
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 03:53:15 PM »
Great Question Mikla.
First of all, let's discuss the reports on Sapphires.
Traditionally AGTA was the benchmark.
Since GIA got more involved, I find a lot of dealers using GIA instead.

In terms of the merits of the actual stones...... much tougher question.
Most Sapphires are heated as part of the finishing process- while some are not- that's that what we're talking about here.
I've seen some amazingly beautful sapphires that were heated- and also some un-heated ones that we're...well, so-so.
It's not a hard fast rule that unheated is nicer, or "better"

Clearly, if we're talking the most expensive sapphires, it probably would make a big difference- but I find a lot of gem quality stones that have no report- so we must assume they have been heated.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 07:35:54 AM »
Dear David -

I'm thinking about a sapphire ring for my next sparkly.  Do you have sources for AGTA or GIA certified blue sapphires (no heat)?

As usual, I do have some pictures to share with some settings that I like . . . the first pic is courtesy of JewelryHog who has this shot posted in the forum photo gallery.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 02:36:14 PM »
Mikla my favorite is the 4th photo (the last one).  I love the claw prongs and the cut of the stone!
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 08:13:52 PM »
 david  Do you have sources for AGTA or GIA identification report sapphires indicating no heat?

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 08:28:15 PM »
H Mikla,
Absolutely!

We don't currently have any, but we've carried them in the past.
We can certainly get them by request.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 12:14:14 AM »
Actually the heated ones are really pretty and it is a standard of treatment...If I implied that it was bad in the other thread, I am sorry...I guess what I was trying to say was if it was NOT heat treated then the stone was super pretty and well worth the price...but the stone was NOT discounted like traditional pawn shop fair, so it was not a great deal...it was just kind of normal...if not expensive...I actually like the heated ones. 


David always has pretty sapphires. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 07:24:01 AM »
Anyone remember this one?  Good grief, how could we forget.  I still kick myself every time I see it.  Why did I let it get away!?!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 07:26:17 AM »
Wow, that's awesome.  Are the details on this still available on DBL's web site?  Going there now to look for it!   Evil

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 07:28:57 AM »
Not sure.  The center was AGTA certified and was over 7cts if I remember right.  Oh woe is me!   1237387oyy519k20r
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 07:30:21 AM »
You can see a pic and carat weights here Mikla:

http://diamondsbylau...EmeraldAsscher.shtml
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 07:47:43 AM »
 omg  I am such a lover of the square stones and that page is chock full of them!  I am in diamond heaven . . .  angel11

Thank you!

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 07:59:00 AM »
You are welcome Honey!
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2008, 08:00:39 AM »
Quote from: diamondjunkie on June 26, 2008, 07:24:01 AM
Anyone remember this one?  Good grief, how could we forget.  I still kick myself every time I see it.  Why did I let it get away!?!



Now, I can see you wearing that DJ!! Maybe D can find you one... Evil
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2008, 08:01:17 AM »
Quote from: GIAGirl on June 26, 2008, 12:14:14 AM
David always has pretty sapphires. 
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 08:07:45 AM »
DJ-that is one of my all time favs and what a great price it was---Someday I would love something similar!!!  Didn't you get a fantastic sapphire ring? Smiley

mikla-I love the rings you posted!
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 08:10:37 AM »
Doesn't stop me kicking myself over this one DL!   1087

DJM,  stop you will get me in so much trouble!  I don't think I can look at that picture much more.  Waaah!
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 08:12:38 AM »
I think that's the most beautiful ring I've ever seen.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 08:57:38 AM »
That's my hand, too. Tell me it wasn't made for ME.
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 09:03:13 AM »
You know, WM, I thought that was your hand. And...I thought that was your ring, too.
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2008, 10:25:20 AM »
Then it's settled. Whomever has it, 'fess up because I need to send you my address.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 03:56:32 PM »
Hi All!!

Watch this space- we just got a few AWESOME sapphires- including a couple of AGTA unheated ones that look like Cashmere....amazing color!!!


If CockneySparrow is watching, we also got an Alexandrite that shows tremendous color change!
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2008, 03:57:40 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2008, 04:01:21 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 04:07:21 PM »
No early night for me - wild horses couldn't pull me away from this thread.  I really want to see the Alexandrite too.  I've only ever seen one genuine stone in real life and it wasn't the best.  Why can't I work in the office?!  Cori, I am so jealous!
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