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« on: February 15, 2010, 06:42:08 AM »

New Heart Pendant Project

OMC, I need your help with this please.  N1Please2HL1

I have a 1.52ct. Y-Z Heart   heart2 that I want to set into a pendant like WM's earrings.  Did you know that this pair of earrings is really bezel set hearts with custom made heart shaped earring jackets?

I want my pendant to be made the same way, that is with a removable jacket.  That way I will have two pendants:
 A bezel set heart pendant (to wear with R551).
 A halo framed heart pendant (to wear with R2034).
(If the jacket is nicely finished, I could wear it alone for three pendants...oh, dear, I'll need another ring.  Grin )

I do not have Photo Shop to draw this; so I am relying on you, OMC.

Since the sides of the jackets have rectangular slots; those could be lined up for the chain to pass through.

The bezel would need to be made of a sufficient depth to have holes to string the chain through.

When I want to wear the heart with the jacket, I would use a flexible chain with a tab end instead of a jump ring to thread the chain into the jacket shoulder, into the bezel of the heart shoulder and out of the heart bezel at the other shoulder and then into the other jacket shoulder and out. (So what if I have to use  pair of tweezers for all this threading; I think it is worth it.)

Does that make sense?

The chain would run across and above the pavillion of the diamond in a straight line at the shoulders of the heart.  The heart is 6.61w x 6.90h x 4.45d mm.  I believe that is plenty deep to accomplish this because I have a 0.75 oval bezel pendant,  and that is how the chain strings through it.

Do you think you could draw the back view to demonstrate how all this fits together?

One of my concerns is the balancing of the pendants: the bezeled heart so that it hangs straight when worn alone, the jacket and heart hanging straight, and both without tipping over, aka top heavy.

I know this is possible; it's not rocket science. The factory needs to measure accurately and pay attention to details; and it will be fabulous just like WM's earrings.

I tried to take pictures of my bezel set oval  camera , but something is not working...operator error?  Huh?

OMC, thanks in advance for your help.  hail



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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 07:23:04 AM »

Hm. There may be an easier way - since I don't think wearing the jacket alone is ever going to look nice, because of the need to have the fastening of the centre stone going through - why not set the centre stone with bail ring which will:

1. Facilitate the threading through
2. Ensure that the centre stone does not tip (it can be positioned as high as required, and it can have a gallery to balance weight and side view)
3. Be hidden behind the bezel if required
4. Be easier to manufacture (you only require two open hooks on the halo to which one can fasten the chain to make sure it stays where one wants it)

Your thoughts?
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 09:54:33 AM »

Dang, OMC, you're too smart.  I'm threading and looping this way and that, and you recommend a bail ring and two hooks.  duhsign

I like your idea better than mine, but I need more information to visualize the bail ring and it's location on the heart.

Thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 10:42:34 AM »

I'll post a photo later today to illustrate the idea.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 12:24:11 PM »

I'm intrigued to see how this will work. I rather think that the person who invents a really nice looking pendant jacket is going the be rich!
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 12:40:14 PM »

Well, OK, a round of tiaras for this as well, if it works. I believe there is more chance with the lottery...
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 01:45:45 PM »

 hello I'll take a tiara, please.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 02:50:35 PM »

LOL! Good to see you haven't forgotten your tiara pledge!
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 03:06:03 PM »

I'd put my name in the hat for one as well, Miz M - but with all the help OMC's given me on projects, I'm afraid I'd be owing him the match to the 1937 platinum & diamonds tiara clip by C London  that Miz OMC wears so well!  freakout
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 03:17:22 PM »

Good news, Mrs. M; since ah2bqat has relinquished any claim to a tiara, that means there will be one more crown for us to share!
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 04:21:58 PM »

So - here's the idea.

Front view:



Side view:



Of course, the bail can be made deeper or less deep depending on the extent to which the diamond has to sit behind it or the bail can be linked to another part of the bezel with Y-shaped metalwork. Here the bail is balanced by the pearl, but the gallery of the bezel can be made to "stick out" as needed to get the stone to stay straight and/or the hide the bail - if that's what you want.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 12:06:12 AM »

Thanks, OMC; that picture helped confirm what I thought you were referring to.

I would suggest tucking two bail rings into the bezel at the shoulders to aid with balancing the heart pendant.

Next Questions:

  How is the heart pendant and the jacket held together?  I have two gold ovals that string together with a chain through the upper third, and the smaller inner oval swings out independently when I lean forward.

  I am asking this because I am assuming that the chain goes through one side of the jacket, the heart , and through the other side of the jacket via clips on the jacket.  Is that your plan?  Or is there another piece of gold across the inside opening of the jacket to somehow secure the heart?

Thanks again.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 06:39:53 AM »

You could have two clips securing the top and one at the bottom. Or to make it totally invisible, two prongs in the halo at the bottom that enter slots in the gallery of the centre stone, and two small tabs that pivot on screws at the top. The chain would be a failsafe in this latter case.

I don't like the idea of the halo and the centre moving independently of each other, since the sides and bottom of the halo are not particularly nice or interesting to see.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 09:15:42 AM »

Thanks OMC!

 I believe that you have found a reasonable solution:
Use hidden ring bails for the bezel set heart.
Clips to secure the jacket to the chain
Two prongs at the bottom and two screw held tabs at the top of the jacket to hold the heart pendant inside the jacket as a single unit.

Good Job!
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 09:59:36 AM »

I love that setting omc. I can just picture pear shapes dangling from that bullet/baguette.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 11:16:57 AM »

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I believe that you have found a reasonable solution:
Use hidden ring bails for the bezel set heart.
Clips to secure the jacket to the chain
Two prongs at the bottom and two screw held tabs at the top of the jacket to hold the heart pendant inside the jacket as a single unit.

Easy as pie!  faintthud
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 12:22:23 PM »

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I believe that you have found a reasonable solution:
Use hidden ring bails for the bezel set heart.
Clips to secure the jacket to the chain
Two prongs at the bottom and two screw held tabs at the top of the jacket to hold the heart pendant inside the jacket as a single unit.

Easy as pie!  faintthud

It is easy!  Think about it.  I am certain that the factory uses CAD.  Therefore creating the heart jacket is no big deal.  They already have a pattern for Hal#1 and software to scan the diamond size and adjust the halo.  They simply need to take accurate measurements to place the bails, clips, prongs and screw holes into the CAD drawings for the jacket and the openings in the heart bezel.  (They can use a check list for goodness sake so they don't miss one.)  Send the computer drawing to the wax machine and presto!  Then, pour the gold.

If the factory can't manage do this, then how in the world have they made the legacy rings, the under halo for Namtam, and OMC's creations?

The ring that David recently replaced the center diamond clearly shows that the factory has a laser welder.  Have you ever seen one of those things in action?  Accurate and a time saver!

This is simple; it just requires accurate measurements, but nothing like the swiss cheese diamond placement for OMC's boule(sp?) ring.
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 03:23:16 PM »

 
Yippee!!
David is going to talk to the factory about setting my Y-Z heart and making the jacket!
Looks like OMC will be giving us all tiaras!  icon_queen
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 03:46:27 PM »

YAY! I'm really looking forward to seeing this one, it's got the wheels turning...
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